Bipolar. Schizophrenia. Six of One Half Dozen of the Next.

Grace and peace to the brethren in the Lord, and greetings to the unsaved.

Today, I was considering the revelation that Catherine Zeta-Jones, by her own admission, has been diagnosed as having Bipolar Disorder.  This term has grown in popularity in the last decade.  I had never heard of it until 1998, when a friend told me that her child had been diagnosed with it. 

Since that time, another acquaintance of mine has expressed concern that she too, may be bipolar.  I’ve always wondered what bipolar disorder was and why there seems to be an increase of it in the last ten years or so.  But, before today, my curiosity was never enough that I took the time to research it.

Today, however, I went to the encyclopedia to look for a definition for bipolar disorder. First, I looked in the Encyclopedia Britannica, 1985 edition, and could not find it.  Then I looked in the Collier’s Encyclopedia, 1991 edition, and could not find it either.  Lastly, I went to the Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, Eleventh Edition, which gave the following definition:

Bipolar disorder n. (1980): Any of several psychological disorders of mood characterized usu. by alternating episodes of depression and mania – called also manic depression, manic-depressive illness.”

In other words, serious mood swings.  Webster’s also gave this definition for bipolar:

bipolar adj. (1810) 1: having or marked by two mutually repellent forces or diametrically opposed natures or views.”

This definition is highly enlightening and suggestive of the real cause of bipolar disorder.  The excessive mood swings that characterize this disorder are caused by two mutually repellent forces in one person.  I could stop writing now, because it is obvious where I am going with this.  But I won’t.

Because I had heard somewhere that bipolar disorder and schizophrenia are the same, I decided to test this contention by looking up the definition for schizophrenia in the encyclopedia to see if it matched the dictionary’s definition for bipolar disorder.  I was not disappointed.  

Encyclopedia Britannica says that schizophrenia literally means, “splitting of the mind.”  Do you see the similarities?  If you split something, like a mind, the result will be two halves or two minds, yet, in one person.  Bi-polar literally means “two poles,” yet, in one person.  They are the same thing.

Now, two poles are not necessarily bad.  A car battery has a positive and a negative pole, but it doesn’t explode when you turn the key.  The earth has two poles: the north and the south, yet here we are.  That the two forces are mutually repellent and diametrically opposed is what makes bipolar disorder problematic.  That means they don’t get along.  They are contrary to one another.

A car battery functions because the two poles are separate.  The earth has not exploded, because its two poles are separate.  Perfectly normally people are often either happy or sad.  But when the two poles, or in this case, minds, are mutually repellent and are trying to come together in one person, that is a recipe for disaster.  It’s like trying to touch the same poles of two magnets together.  You can’t do it.  They will fight each other.

I think the reason I could not find bipolar in the encyclopedia is because it is the same as schizophrenia.  It has just been given a kinder, gentler name, a politically correct name. All reference to the mind have been taken out so as not to offend anyone.  After all, we don’t want to offend a schizophrenic by telling him he is a schizophrenic, because he would know that he had a problem.  And If he knew that he had a problem, then he might seek help.  And we don’t want that, now do we? 

That’s the whole idea behind political correctness.  Being careful not to call something what it is.  If we don’t know that something is broken, we won’t try to fix it.

We do the same thing with sin.  We don’t like to call sin what it is: sin.  Because if people believed in sin and the consequences of sin, they might seek help so that they could stop sinning, and we don’t want them to do that, now do we?  

So, we come up with the name bipolar, because it sounds less harsh.  It’s like calling a drunk an alcoholic.  It makes us feel better.  I could probably easily find bipolar in a modern encyclopedia because I would bet they are all politically correct.  They would probably even have the term, politically correct, which, by the way, I was not able to find in my encyclopedias.

The contention that modern dictionaries and encyclopedias are politically correct is supported by the following example.  Webster’s dictionary usually lists the origins and meanings for words made of foreign roots, so you will know the origin for such words.  If you look up the word, schadenfreude, for example, Webster’s will tell you that it is made up of two German words: schaden meaning “damage” and freude meaning “joy.”  The word literally means “to have joy at someone else’s troubles.”

Though Webster’s lists the origins and meanings of many words made up of foreign roots, it doesn’t do this with the word schizophrenia.  If you look up the word schizophrenia, Webster’s will not list the root words and their meanings, but will merely give you the definition for the word.  If you look up the root schizo-, however, Webster’s will tell you that it is a Greek word meaning “to split,” and if you look up the root –phrenia, Webster’s will tell you that it is a Greek word meaning “mind.”  The word schizophrenia literally means “split mind.”

Webster’s Dictionary Eleventh Edition is also politically correct with the word entertain.  If you look up the word entertain, Webster’s will tell you that it is derived from the French word entretenir, which Webster’s says is formed from the words entre + tenir. Interestingly, Webster’s says that tenir means “to hold,” but it doesn’t tell us what entre means.  But if you go to Webster’s Encyclopedic Dictionary of the English Language, International Edition, Vol. 1, (p. 291 “Entertain”) you will learn that the word tenir means “to hold or maintain.”  To entertain literally means “to hold between or suspend.” Click here for the spiritual significance of this word.  

Why doesn’t Webster’s list the meanings of the two roots that make up the word schizophrenia?  Could it be because the politically correct powers-that-be do not want you to know that schizophrenia literally means, “split mind?”  You bet your boots it is.  Because if you knew that schizophrenia meant “split mind,” then you would know that you had a problem.  And if you knew that you had a problem, then you might seek help.  And we wouldn’t want that, now would we?

Think about it.  If someone went up to a Bible-believing Christian and said that they had been told that they have a split mind, then the Bible-believing Christian might remember that the Bible says,

“a double-minded man is unstable in all his ways” (James 1:8).

Then the Christian might tell the person that

“God has not given us the Spirit of fear, but of power, of love, and of a sound mind (READ whole mind)” (2 Timothy 1:7).

Then the person would realize that his problem was spiritual, not mental.  Then, with his eyes wide open, the person might ask the Christian, “What Sir, shall I do?”  Then the Christian might say, “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.”  And then the person might get down on his knees then and there and accept the Lord Jesus as his Saviour, and he would then be delivered from the DEMONIC ACTIVITY that is causing his problems.

Then the person, set free and wanting to let somebody know about it, might go and tell someone else he knows that is suffering from the same thing, and then that person might accept Jesus and be set free.  And then that person goes and tells somebody else, who tells somebody else, who tells somebody else, until there are no more bipolars or schizophrenics.  How would the psychologists and psychiatrists make a living?  They might starve to death!  And we wouldn’t want that to happen, now would we?

So they come up with a kindler, gentler name for it, and say, “Take this pill and call me in the morning…and the morning after that…and the morning after that…And so we follow the politically correct spin-doctors who make us feel better about ourselves instead of telling us that something is broken so that we can get it fixed.  And we let them do it.  For shame!

Did you know that doctors don’t have a clue what causes bipolar disorder?  Did you know that according to doctors, bipolar disorder (schizophrenia) is not a disease, but a syndrome? Why, then, don’t they call it bipolar syndrome?  Why, because you might look in the dictionary and find out that a syndrome means,

“a group of signs and symptoms that occur together and characterize a particular abnormality or condition” (Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, Eleventh Edition).

That means that a syndrome is not a problem, but a sign that there is a problem.  So, they call it a disorder, meaning that something is “not in order,” or out of whack.  You already know that!

They’re being politically correct again.  They don’t want you to know that something is broken, and they can’t tell you why, because if you knew that something were broken, and that they couldn’t tell you why, then you might seek help elsewhere, perhaps even from Jesus. 

And if you sought help from Jesus, then you would find it.  And when you found it, then you would get better.  And when you got better, then you might tell somebody.  And we surely wouldn’t want that, now would we?

Schizophrenia.  Bipolar.  Six of one, half-dozen of the next.  Both mean that something is broken that needs fixing.  Both mean that a person does not have a whole mind.  Jesus says he can make you whole. If you, like Catherine Zeta-Jones, have been told or suspect that you are bipolar or schizophrenic, or know someone who is, know that Jesus Christ can make you whole, if you would only ask Him.  Why don’t you give him a try?

If you want to be whole, click here.

By the way, Bipolar Disorder is often a result of a generational curse and even affects many Christians and their families.  Read here about generational curses and how to get free from them.

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As always, be encouraged and look up, for your redemption draweth nigh.

The Still Man 

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79 Responses to Bipolar. Schizophrenia. Six of One Half Dozen of the Next.

  1. You need to be educated. Bless ya. says:

    Well, this entire thing is just a shame. This ads to the category of ignorance and misinformation known as; Christians that do not acknowledge the reality of mental illness. Informed Christians know that there’s a difference between demonic activity and true mental illness. Yes, demon activity in ones life WILL affect your mental health, undoubtedly! It can copy some symptoms of mental illness. However, the prevalence of real demonic activity in ones life, be it oppression or possession, is probably much less common than people such as yourself might think… There’s a hell of a lot of people with anxiety, depression, bipolar, schizophrenia, BPD, etc, that aren’t demonic in nature, but stem from brain disorders OR thinking issues caused from a tragic life; think PTSD and nightmares after witnessing the gore and suffering of war.

    Firstly, schizophrenia and bipolar disorder are two entirely different ILLNESSES with different symptoms. Schizophrenia is much like this:
    Disorganized speech.
    Disorganized or catatonic behavior.
    Negative symptoms (emotional flatness, apathy, lack of speech)
    There is a whole host of symptoms for schizophrenia, but in general it’s when somebody is extremely paranoid, delusional, and has no grasp on reality whatsoever -- schizophrenics do not get manic. The only similarity is both disorders can present delusions.

    Bipolar is when you experience ABNORMAL HIGHS and LOWS, as well as anxiety and everything in between; it’s far from simple. The issue is not these ‘apposing poles’ or whatever that ridiculous comparison was, the issue is the depression itself, and the mania/hypomania itself -- the issue isn’t the contrast of the two.. Which is why plain old depression is STILL an issue. If a person had just hypomania or mania, it’s still an issue regardless if there’s depression present at other periods. Get it? So that whole argument of the issue being the two opposites is rubbish. The issue isn’t the existence of both, it’s just that both exist with this condition.

    Bipolar can include delusions such as schizophrenics get, however, it’s entirely different in nature. Mania is when a person is so high, so inflated, so ‘UP’ they often believe in delusions mainly about their own power or ability, such as thinking one is the son of God, the smartest man on earth, has the cure to cancer etc. Hypomania as seen in type 2 bipolar disorder is also a huge, huge issue, and this is the kind of bipolar disorder I’ve had my whole life.

    Hypomania is a milder form of mania where NO delusions are present. It is, simply put for your simple mind, as if you are on a great deal of speed or amphetamine ALL THE TIME. The ‘gogo’ feel good chemicals in your brain are all up, all out of control, you RACE, you cannot slow down or calm down, you plan grand futures for yourself, some people can use this hypomania to be wildly successful, others get a more irritable version; but with hypomania there’s next to NO sleep, and until you medically intervene, you only go higher and higher and sleep less and less, getting more and more energetic until your brain ‘bums out’ and you crash into a lasting and very real serious depression. It is no small deal, I assure you! And I assure you that you will never feel as euphoric as I have, even if you do drugs.

    Bipolar wreaks havoc on every aspect of your life. From personal health, relationships, financial to your career. If you have bipolar YOU and OTHERS WILL KNOW. It is in no way mild and sooner or later with the disorder untreated you will wind up in a hospital somewhere to get the diagnosis for the condition you have. Until you get that diagnosis, learn of your condition, take medication, nothing will improve, the symptoms worsen over time.

    it’s real, it runs in families and here’s the thing; while there is certainly the possibility of people being demonically possessed or oppressed, it’s uncommon. And it’s ENTIRELY different from mental illness.

    True demonologists have a psychiatrist evaluate somebody prior to exorcism to test if it’s supernatural, truly, in nature, or if the person has bipolar, schizophrenia, or perhaps another disorder which may include delusions such as schizoeffective. All disorders are entirely different with severely different symptoms and very different treatment. But the same way chest pain can be caused by two different illnesses exhibiting much the same pain, similarly, mental illness symptoms can be similar. And guess what? 9/10 cases are that the person is mentally ill and can only improve through psychiatric intervention, NOT through any amount of prayer unless God grants them a miracle cure, which most people do not get. We must all suffer in our own ways.

    Also they do know a lot about mental illness now and what causes the illness. Heard of dopamine? Seratonin? Well, if your seratonin and dopamine is constantly going WAY UP then WAY DOWN, you’ll experience the depression and mania. Drugs to this to people, but with bipolar, your brain does it on its own.
    With brain mapping and brain scans they can now see the insanely different brain activity with people who are manic, hypomanic, compared to normal people -- and depressed people compared to those not depressed. This included abnormalities in brain structure, such as a shrunken hippocampus in many depressed people, and insanely over active brains in those manic. Cool thing is people that take medication and respond to treatment, over time, their brain structure can actually repair, people with shrunken hippocampus’ can actually recover and it can grow while taking anti depressants and going to treatment. Medication now targets particular processes and regions that are abnormal in those with bipolar for instance, and works tremendously well in treating the condition.

    If you throw medication at somebody whose problems stem from demons then the medication and treatment will not work; JUST THE SAME as praying for somebody with bipolar is infact very very dangerous! DO NOT CONVINCE somebody with a delusional disorder they have demons… This can lead to anything, suicide, hospital, you name it.

    I told you I have bipolar and I convinced myself for a very long time in the past that it was DEMONIC in nature. It was a dark delusional depression where I was convinced. I underwent exorcisms, I prayed and prayed and I was DELUSIONAL AND SICK through getting overly spiritual while unmedicated. Basically, spirituality made me incredibly sick because I was SICK WITH AN ILLNESS and sometimes you need to pray as you seek treatment. If you have cancer, you pray, but you also go to get surgery, chemo, etc, you do not rely on prayer alone; same applies to depression, anxiety, etc.

    I have since learned that God will help me with bipolar disorder but I will always experience crippling depressions, euphoric highs, and irritable times; I will always be at risk of suicide and reckless behavior and I always need support and to be very mindful and strict with my lifestyle. With the right medication, and I only take one, I experience no delusional thoughts, I sleep 8 hours, maintain a job and relationship, all of these things impossible without the appropriate treatment. I can now have a healthy prayer life and a healthy spiritual outlook. I no longer run around trying to heal people and pray for strangers while hypomanic, and do not think I am being tormented by demons while depressed.

    If I blame my mental condition on spiritual issues the problems will worsen drastically because my problems are mental NOT spiritual. Spiritually I am doing really well and God is proud of me.

    Is diabetes demonic?
    Is a broken leg demonic?
    Is a liver disease demonic?

    You would come across insulting if you weren’t just so ignorant of mental illness. This is why mentally ill people commit suicide, because they are too proud and too afraid to ask for help because they are afraid of people like you that insult their suffering and pain and diminish their real problems into fantasy. You truly can have no say on the topic of mental illness if you haven’t done appropriate research, and unless you or somebody close to you has battled a severe mental illness.

    Well, the brain malfunctions as any organ does. The brain is the human computer and network that controls EVERYTHING, why is it hard for people like you to grasp the reality that the brain can be sick like any other organ? Epilepsy is a brain illness, is that demonic? Are those seizures just because they are not ‘born again’?

    God gives all humans suffering. And mental anguish and illness is another form and a ‘demon’ we must battle, not spiritually, but medically first and foremost.

    It’s been a pleasure trying, hopefully with a good result, to change your mind on this.

    • To begin, I must address something you said near the close of your comment. You said: “This is why mentally ill people commit suicide, because they are too proud and too afraid to ask for help” and that people like me cause them to commit suicide with our belief that the cause of their problem could be spiritual. This is simply not true. There are people who need help, but are afraid to ask for it, and there are people who need help, but are too proud to ask for it. I have belonged to both groups at one time or another in my life. But I have never committed suicide. Mentally ill people who commit suicide do not do so because they get their feelings hurt; they do so because they are mentally ill. If you are mentally ill and prone to commit suicide, you will do so even if you have a caring family, friends, are in a relationship, have a steady income, and have a great support system, and you know that this is true. This is what characterizes mental illness. You admit that you are a suicide risk. Is this because you may run into a Christian who says that your problems may be spiritual? Or is it because of your condition?

      You make far too many unsubstantiated claims to defend you views. For instance, you say that the prevalence of real demonic activity in one’s life is probably much less common than people such as myself think yet, but you cannot prove that. You say “there’s a hell of a lot of people with anxiety, depression, bipolar, schizophrenia, BPD, etc. that aren’t demonic in nature,” but you would have no way of knowing this unless you had personal knowledge of all these cases. You attribute their mental illness to brain disorders, “thinking issues” caused by things like PTSD and nightmares caused by war, but this is another dubious claim. Those who have been in war, such as myself, make up less than 1/100 of one percent of the total population, and those who suffer PTSD from witnessing the horrors of war are even less. Those who have suffered a brain disorder are fewer still. Yet, mental illness has been on a steady increase for decades. By some estimates, more than 40% of the population suffer from some form of mental illness. How can this be? Many, such as yourself, try to gainsay the prevalence of demonic activity in our day, but you cannot do so without reaching for straws.

      You believe that mental illness can be caused by one’s seratonin and dopamine levels “going WAY UP,” and that with bipolar disorder, the brain “does it on its own.” I submit that our bodies do nothing on their own. If one’s seratonin and/or dopamine goes up (or down) something (or someone) is causing it to go up or down. Now, in my experience, things that happen to our bodies have either a physical (medical) cause, or a spiritual cause.

      Regardless what you say, you believe in your heart that mental illness is spiritual and not medical, as you say, “If you throw medication at somebody whose problems stem from demons then the medication and treatment will not work.” Did you know that the vast majority of those being treated for bipolar disorder and schizophrenia are not getting better? In some cases, the medication may help their manic and depressive episodes or help them to function fairly normally through such episodes, but they never get better and they are rarely, if ever, cured.

      You say that it is “very very dangerous” to pray for someone with mental illness. Dangerous to whom? If you mean the person who is mentally ill, what does he have to lose? You say that the delusional person who is convinced his problems are demonic could commit suicide or end up in the hospital, but many people--yourself included--are convinced that mental illness is not demonic, and are a suicide risk anyway. You also say that if a bipolar person goes untreated, he will “sooner or later” end up in the hospital. Again, what does he has to lose seeking help from Jesus?

      Now, if you mean dangerous to the person doing the praying, you are dead wrong. God would never allow one who prays for another to get harmed by Satan. As a matter of fact, James 5:16 says that when we get sick, we should “pray one for another that ye may be healed.” Come on now!

      God loves prayer. Look at Job. The Bible tells us that God healed Job “when he prayed for his friends” (Job 42:10). Job didn’t get further afflicted because he prayed for them, but he got healed! This agrees with Jesus’ commandment for us to “Love one another.” It is never wrong or dangerous to pray for someone. I have heard such a doctrine before from a man who claims to be a Christian psychologist, but whom I suspect is actually a Jesuit. Now, if this was your experience, you must remember that by your own admission, you were “delusional and sick” while you were praying for others. What may have happened is that Satan did not appreciate you praying for anyone while he was busy afflicting you and tried (successfully) to discourage you from praying by afflicting you in the process. I pray all the time for people who are burdened by Satan, and have even prayed and fasted with them. My family and I are under steady attack because of this, but it hasn’t and won’t deter me. Jesus loves it when we pray for others.

      I will say that it is very important to stay prayed up yourself and keep it “under the blood” (confess sins) while praying for someone who is in bondage to Satan, but you needn’t be concerned about any danger. If there were danger in it, I believe the Lord Jesus would have warned us.

      Allow me to address one last comment that you made. You say that I have no right to speak on the topic of mental illness if I haven’t 1. done the “appropriate” research, 2. suffered from mental illness myself, or 3. know someone close who has suffered from mental illness. As far as research, I have researched the topic of mental illness both from a spiritual and temporal perspective. You may not appreciate my views, but they are no less valid. As far as me not having had mental illness, Jesus never sinned, yet 99.9999% of his preaching was on sin. Did he speak out of place?

      As far as someone close to me suffering from mental illness, suffice it to say that I have suffered as much as anyone who lives with a person suffering from mental illness. And the more you love them, the more it hurts.

    • Thank you, Kieran, for your comment. Let me begin by saying that the problem with the term mentally ill is that it fools people into believing that mental illness is as normal as breaking a leg or having a disease. You yourself have implied this. The term mental illness, while easier to hear, over-simplifies a very devastating state of being.

      I must also address something you said near the close of your comment. You said: “This is why mentally ill people commit suicide, because they are too proud and too afraid to ask for help” and that people like me cause them to commit suicide with our belief that the cause of their problem could be spiritual. This is simply not true. There are people who need help, but are afraid to ask for it, and there are people who need help, but are too proud to ask for it. And there are people who commit suicide and don’t belong to either group. Mentally ill people who commit suicide do not do so because they get their feelings hurt; they do so because they are mentally ill. That is one reason they are considered mentally ill. Mentally ill people are not horrible people. They are not pariahs. They do not deserve to be scorned or shunned. They are simply mentally ill, which, for me, means they can’t properly cope with the issues of life. They don’t function as they should, and they need help. Most harm only themselves, some harm others; But, all--without exception--harm those closest to them.

      While I applaud your zeal, you make far too many unsubstantiated claims in defense of you views. For instance, you say that the prevalence of real demonic activity in one’s life is probably much less common than people such as myself think yet, but you cannot prove that. You say “there’s a hell of a lot of people with anxiety, depression, bipolar, schizophrenia, BPD, etc. that aren’t demonic in nature,” but you would have no way of knowing this unless you had personal knowledge of all these cases. You attribute their mental illness to brain disorders, “thinking issues” caused by things like PTSD and nightmares caused by war, but this is another dubious claim. Those who have been in war, such as myself, make up less than 1/100 of one percent of the total population, and those who suffer PTSD from witnessing the horrors of war are even less. Those who have suffered a brain disorder are fewer still. Yet, mental illness has been on a steady increase for decades. By some estimates, more than 40% of the population suffer from some form of mental illness. How can this be? Those, such as yourself, who gainsay the prevalence of demonic activity in our day, cannot do so without reaching for straws.

      You believe that mental illness can be caused by one’s seratonin and dopamine levels “going WAY UP,” and that with bipolar disorder, the brain “does it on its own.” I submit that our bodies do nothing on their own. If one’s seratonin and/or dopamine goes up (or down) something (or someone) is causing it to go up or down. Now, in my experience, things that happen to our bodies have either a physical (medical) cause, or a spiritual cause.

      Regardless what you say, you believe in your heart that mental illness is spiritual and not medical, as you say, “If you throw medication at somebody whose problems stem from demons then the medication and treatment will not work.” Did you know that the vast majority of those being treated for bipolar disorder and schizophrenia are not getting better? In some cases, the medication may help their manic and depressive episodes or help them to function fairly normally through such episodes, but they never get better and they are rarely, if ever, cured.

      You say that it is “very very dangerous” to pray for someone with mental illness. Dangerous to whom? If you mean the person who is mentally ill, what does he have to lose? You say that the delusional person who is convinced his problems are demonic could commit suicide or end up in the hospital, but many people--yourself included--are convinced that mental illness is not demonic, and are a suicide risk anyway. You also say that if a bipolar person goes untreated, he will “sooner or later” end up in the hospital. Again, what does he has to lose seeking help from Jesus?

      Now, if you mean dangerous to the person doing the praying, you are dead wrong. God would never allow one who prays for another to get harmed by Satan. As a matter of fact, James 5:16 says that when we get sick, we should “pray one for another that ye may be healed.” Come on now!

      God loves prayer. Look at Job. The Bible tells us that God healed Job “when he prayed for his friends” (Job 42:10). Job didn’t get further afflicted because he prayed for them, but he got healed! This agrees with Jesus’ commandment for us to “Love one another.” It is never wrong or dangerous to pray for someone. I have heard such a doctrine before from a man who claims to be a Christian psychologist, but whom I suspect is actually a Jesuit. Now, if this was your experience, you must remember that by your own admission, you were “delusional and sick” while you were praying for others. What may have happened is that Satan did not appreciate you praying for anyone while he was busy afflicting you and tried (successfully) to discourage you from praying by afflicting you in the process. I pray all the time for people who are burdened by Satan, and have even prayed and fasted with them. I will admit that my family and I are under steady attack largely, I believe, because of this, but we understand that this is goes with the territory. Jesus loves it when we pray for others.

      It is very important to stay prayed up yourself and keep it “under the blood” (confess sins) while praying for someone who is in bondage to Satan, but you needn’t be concerned about any danger. If there were danger in it, I believe the Lord Jesus would have warned us and discouraged us from praying for those in bondage.

      Allow me to address one last comment that you made. You say that I have no right to speak on the topic of mental illness if I haven’t done the “appropriate” research, suffered from mental illness myself, or know someone close who has suffered from mental illness. As for research, I have researched the topic of mental illness from a spiritual and temporal perspective, and am satisfied that my understanding of it is correct. In fact, in my opinion, the medical profession understands so little about mental illness, that the biblical perspective is the only one that makes sense. You may not appreciate my views, but they are no less valid. As far as me never having suffered from mental illness, the Lord Jesus never sinned, yet 99.9999% of His preaching was on sin. Did He speak out of place? And lastly, regarding knowing someone who has suffered from mental illness, suffice it to say that I have suffered as much as anyone who loves someone who is suffering from mental illness. In the words of Forrest Gump, “That’s all I got to say about that.”

      God bless you.

  2. Love&Light says:

    Although i am not a Christian, i resonate to the general message behind your article.
    I feel you are in the right spot but if you keep limiting yourself to one perspective you will never see the bigger picture. As this is your own free will, this is just my advice.

    There IS a spiritual “war” going on but this has been going on since before the oldest times described in any Christian text. (Yes the Earth is way older then 6000 years)
    Search an ye will find..
    Yet it is not a war, but just the everlasting searching for balance between the two forces of this Universe. (Which you call God and Satan)

    The fact these things are happening (in the spirit world) should not scare all of you people any more than the fact that their live at least a million mites in your mattrass.
    So above, So below..
    We feed on lower density entities (plants/animals) and so do higher density entities feed on us, only because they are not made of material, our food for them also has to be non-material. So whats the non material thing we humans have in common and are transmitting 24.7? Emotions!

    Now do we get it?

    Everybody here is trying to prove their right and wrongs, is it so hard to accept that people have different ways of seeing thing and that it might, IT MIGHT, could be that BOTH of the perspectives contain the truth?

    As someone who has studied all available knowledge since 14 (religion, sience, para sience, etc. etc.), and someone who has something like bi-polar/schizophrenia (never diagnosed, dont trust doctors) i can tell that all of you people are wrong and right in some kind of way.

    To the people who say that it is a brain disfunction, this is true, as our emotions (which are the building blocks of the manic/depressed episoded) are governed by chemicals whitin our celebro. But WHY become these chemicals out of balance?

    T0 the people who believe it is merely a spiritual event, this is also true, but these ‘demons’ (its just enitities from higher lifeform though) cant just magically cause a decease in someone, as we are all protected by the Love and Light of the Infinite Creator.

    But there are occasions, when our defenses are weakened, like when we are not balanced (when we are “ill”, have a “disorder” or decease, but also if we dont eat/drink the right things, when we seek the negative, etc. etc.)
    Disbalances are caused by the Law of Karma(sin?) and can/will manifest in a physical/mental form as a result of your action. Like the author states this can come from familiar Karma (sin?) or even racial Karma. I personally believe that it even goes from/with you in to your next experiences as an incarnated soul. (I know you wont agree with that but its a pity that so many people believe that there is only life as that limits your opportunities to become enlightened in the long term)

    Now should we see this as a reason to lower our heads and just live with it?
    Accept ourselfs as incomplete beings because this is the way your God want it?
    Take meds that make you “better” in the moment but destroy your spirit?

    (People who believe that gifted people invent all medicine for the better of us dont know NOTHING about the pharmaceutical industry, if this where true, why do most medicines have side effects that are worse then the actual illness itself?! And if you really look at the results of these medicine and you please be honest to yourself.
    Or are they just being held in a situation which is acceptable to them (and foremost society)
    (I’m not saying that all medicines do no good.. Offcourse they’ll do what you take em for, thats what they are invented for.. But at what price?)

    The answers to all these questions is NO.
    You shouldn’t “just” live (like that is even possible) with it.
    Neither should you just trust the lord and pray that it will go away.

    Your God is a creator, and we are his co-creators.
    Our Universe is made of infinite creation.
    If you are born with an illness, disorder, decease or whatever..
    And thats not by just giving yourself to the lord Jesus and pray a lot.
    (although i either dont see that as a wrong thing! Prayer/meditation (same) is good, its just not all there is)
    The evidence is dat their are many people (as read above) who are very committed to their religion and still suffer..

    As an old saying says:

    Your salvations lies in the wounds that has been given to you.

    People try to see the bigger picture and you will see that we are all participating in a great scheme of things, this goes further then the Bible (sorry to say) or any other religion of believe system “known” today.

    You may call me a sinner for not being a Christian, i call it freedom of choise to follow the way of the Infinite Creator as i want to, as this is who/what we are.
    Discovering ourselfs (sparks of the Infinite Creator) in all possible ways.


    Before any of you naggers is going to complain about my grammer or spelling,
    I am not an native English speaker so save your sorrow.


    Please dont reply with any Biblical references but with your own LOGIC.

  3. Ron Urzua says:

    Hello Still Man,
    I am a certified Mental Health First Aid instructor and I teach the course to the general public for Ventura County Behavioral Health and I teach it from a Christian perspective in local evangelical churches. The following comments do not represent the views of Ventura County Behavioral Health, Mental Health First Aid USA, nor the evangelical churches that I teach the course in.

    Bi-Polar disorder is a physical disease in which the brain causes people to have manic phases (chemicals cause their body and brain to be supercharged) and depression phases (brain does not produce serotonin and other chemicals) and this causes the body to shut down and often persons with the disease physically unable to wake up or get out of bed. I believe the Bible is the infallible Word of God and it teaches that disease and death came into the world as a result of original sin. However, It does not tell us why certain people get specific diseases (cancer, asthma, etc). If your assertions about Bi-polar disease and sin are correct then the majority (all have sinned- and even the best of Christians still sin) of people would have Bi-Polar disease as well as episodes where they could not physically go to sleep for days and could not wake up or physically function because of depression. Science has proven that Bi-Polar disease is primarily the result of genetics like cancer or diabetes. Yes diabetes & cancer can be brought on by behavior or physical conditions in the environment(sugar abuse or polluted environment) in those who are genetically predisposed to them. However, many people who are not genetically predisposed to these diseases will not develop them even if they ingest sugar every day or live in a unhealthy environment. Only 2.6% of the population has Bi-Polar disorder. The rate for schizophrenia is even lower. The percentage of people who deny Christ, live in Sin, or who are double minded carnal Christians is much-much higher. If sin and demons caused bi-polar disorder the prevalence rate for BPD in the general population would probably exceed 50%. Your assertions regarding sin and BPD & Schizophrenia simply do not line up with reality.

    Also, schizophrenia as a disease should not be understood by the definition of the ancient Greek word but by what it is as a disease. For example “diabetes” is an ancient Greek word which means siphon because ancient patients urinated often. However, urinating frequently and the word Siphon has nothing to do with understanding the cause of Diabetes or it’s nature as a disease. The words Bi-Polar Disorder and schizophrenia are simply words used to describe a real physical disease caused by physical realities in the brain (a physical organ). Brain scans show real physical distinctions in brain activity and physical features from brains of persons who do not have these diseases. Schizophrenia is not diagnosed because of a “split mind”. The disease is diagnosed because of a cluster of symptoms: Delusions, hallucinations, very slowed thinking, etc. A doctor nor a psychiatrist would never diagnose some one as a schizophrenic because of double mindedness or because instability in all their ways and thoughts (James). They are diagnosed with schizophrenia because they have a psychosis (complete break with reality-Cannot distinguish what is real). Proper Biblical exegesis would never lead one to connect the Book of James 1:8 (I have been a full time pastor for 23 years and I am proficient at Greek exegesis after 3 years at Fuller seminary). Also,
    14% of patients with Bi-polar disorder complete suicide. The number is far lower for carnal Christians who are double minded (James) and un-renewed in their thinking. If your logic was correct (double mindedness is akin to Bi-Polar disorder or schizophrenia) then 14% of double minded carnal Christians would complete suicide. The suicide rate for double minded Christians is no where near that (praise God) because the diseases of Bi-Polar disorder and schizophrenia having nothing to do with double mindedness or carnality.

    As a pastor and Mental Health First Aid instructor I have met many Godly Christians who are full of the Holy Spirit and who are single of mind and passion in serving the Lord who have been diagnosed with these diseases (Bi-Polar Disorder & Schizophrenia). They go through physical brain changes and experience mania and depression but honor God in their thought process and behavior. Instead of staying of nights and doing drugs or acting out sexually they stay up praying and reading. However because BPD is physical there minds and bodies are supercharged with energy and racing thoughts but they submit them to the Lord. I also have a faithful church member who has schizophrenia. He takes the bus to church every Sunday, goes to Bible study, witnesses and lives a Godly life in obedience to Jesus Christ. However, because his physical disease of the brain (schizophrenia) two to three times a year he has to deal with unwell phases (delusions and hallucinations). He overcomes them with medication which helps his brain and with prayer and the Word which helps him stay attached to reality in the face of hallucinations.

    I have committed my life to helping Christians with mental health disorder because more often than not they have to suffer alone because a big portion of the Body of Christ is ignorant when it comes to mental health issues. People whom Jesus shed His blood for and filled with the Holy Spirit are forced to “go it alone” because other Christians think they have demons, lack faith, having a pitty party, or chose to be “weak minded”.

    I am sure that you are a sincere Christian who is trying to honor Christ and to help others draw closer to Christ through this blog. However, in my opinion you are sincerely incorrect regarding the nature of Bi-Polar Disorder, Schizophrenia, and their causes. People with these diseases may be more vulnerable to the power of sin because they are at a mental disadvantage but they do not have these specific diseases because they have sinned. Yes, sickness and disease exists in this world because of original sin but only God knows why specific people are born with out limbs, get cancer, have heart conditions in their youth, or have mental health disorders.

    Pastor Ron Urzua
    Mental Health First Aid Instructor

    • Pastor Ron, I thank you for your comment. I have no doubt that you have met Christians who have been diagnosed with bipolar disorder and schizophrenia, as there are a great many. One can be saved and still suffer from mental disorders, because to be saved one must only trust in the shed blood of Jesus (for by grace are we saved) and confess Jesus as Lord. To be delivered from a generational curse, however, which I believe is the primary cause of mental illness, one must do more than merely believe on the Lord Jesus: one must confess sins. This is the purpose 1 John 1:9, which few people understand.

      Regarding your claims, It is untrue that modern science has proven bipolar disorder to be genetic; for, in order to prove that, it would be necessary to both identify the gene that causes bipolar (in successive generations) and, in that bipolar disorder is not normal, the abnormality within that gene that causes the disorder. Even with all the advances in gene research, to date, medical science has not been able to do any of these. For this reason, the mental health profession has only theorized that the disorder is genetic, because successive generations as well as siblings have been diagnosed with bipolar disorder. Their conclusions are only suppositions, however, and are not conclusive.

      It is also untrue that it has been scientifically proven that bipolar disorder is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain. This has been merely theorized--not scientifically proven. But this fact has never stopped mental health professionals from telling their patients that bipolar is physical or chemical. In this way, bipolar disorder is very much like the theory of evolution. There is not one shred of hard evidence that humans evolved from apes, yet, because most so-called scientists believe this (or at least profess to believe this), then what used to be called the theory of evolution is now accepted and taught as a scientific fact. This science falsely so-called is the same science that calls, without a shred of scientific evidence, bipolar disorder genetic simply because it is found in successive generations. Show me the gene that causes bipolar, then I might consider that the disorder may be genetic. Until then, no honest medical doctor worth his salt should spread that falsehood.

      As for your church member who suffers from schizophrenia, I feel sorry for him, not only because he has the disorder, but because you, his pastor, are satisfied to leave him as he is, suffering from a mental disease, when the Bible makes it clear that God has given us “power. love, and a sound mind.” All Christians should have a testimony of victory or our Christian walk is of no value to the unsaved world. If this man has schizophrenia and two or three times a year is not in his right mind, then he has no testimony of victory, but of defeat. That you, his pastor, are comfortable letting this man walk around like that by accepting that this is normal for a Christian merely because he can praise God and witness is appalling. The man has no victory! This man could be set free, but your closed-mindedness has condemned him to a life of bondage. And believe you me, mental illness is bondage, regardless of whatever spin you put on it.

      As I have said before, not all Christians can receive this teaching on the correlation between mental illness and sin--generational or otherwise. The Apostle Paul made it clear that even in his time, there were Christians who had to be fed milk when, at that point in their Christian walk, they should have been ready for “strong meat.” (Hebrews 5:14). These he called “babes.” Those who were ready for strong meat, Paul said, are they who “by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.” Did Paul mean that babes in Christ didn’t know good from evil? No. Paul used the word discern, which is the ability to perceive that which one cannot see: to know what is of God and what is of Satan. Notice that Paul said that their discernment was exercised “by reason of use.” That means such people have developed the habit of seeing not with the eyes, but with the spirit, comparing spiritual things with spiritual things, through the perfect lens of the Holy Spirit, who can see in the darkness and in the light. Spirits are invisible, and Satan is a spirit. Though his works manifest in the physical, they always originate in the spiritual; if you cannot discern them, then you cannot even begin to understand them. This is where most Christians are.

      In the times of the Apostles, most Christians were not able to understand many of Paul’s teachings, which is why the Apostle Peter said:

      “Even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you:

      “As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.” (2 Peter 3:15b-16).

      Clearly, God has not given all Christians the same amount of wisdom. It is therefore, incumbent upon those who do understand to teach those who do not. The problem, however, is that not all Christians have a teachable spirit, especially those who like to tout their Christian credentials. Such tend to resist those things they cannot readily grasp, rather than praying over those things they disagree with and seeking the enlightenment of the Holy Spirit.

      Though you may be committed to helping Christians suffering from mental illness, what you may ultimately do is help keep them exactly where they are with no relief in sight, taking medication to treat the symptoms, suffering manic episodes, hallucinations and delusions, and depression, but never getting at the root of the problem. You may succeed at convincing these people that Christians such as myself who believe and know that mental illness is rooted in sin and can be conquered by the blood of Jesus through confession of sins--especially generational--are the reason for their discomfort, but you will have a zero deliverance rate and hear few, if any, genuine testimonies of victory over mental illness. All because you won’t even consider what I and others like me are saying. This is truly a pity.

      “It is extremely encouraging from time to time to meet Christian psychiatrists whose spiritual eyes have been really opened. To this effect a Christian neurologist once said, ‘60% of the inmates in my psychiatric clinic are not so much sufferihng from mental illness as from occult subjection or even demonization,’ and an English psychiatrist declared once, ‘If I were able to obtain forgiveness for the sins of the patients in my clinic, I would be able to discharge half of them tomorrow.” --Kurt Koch, Christian counselor and psychiatrist, in Occult Bondage and Deliverance, p. 13.

  4. El says:

    I am deeply saddened to read this article. I think what bothers me the most is the lack of compassion in the tone of your writing. You seem completely unattached from the reality that there are people who actually struggle with this. I would never recommend this to someone who is seeking healing both spiritual and biological. You have missed the mark entirely. As a person who has been trained to heal and rid the body of spiritual darkness I have come to also realize that our brains can sometimes be wired differently than others. That is no fault to the person. Just as some people need glasses. Does that mean they are demonically oppressed because they can not see? No! But if I had perfect eye sight I could pass that judgment. I say all this to say I recommend you become close friends with someone who struggles with this. You will see that is not always sin. You have proven two things by writing this: 1. Your maturity and 2. The lack there of. Please stop trying to defend this article! Bi polar is both mental and physical.

    • I am more than close friends with people who struggle with this. One of those even names the name of Christ and is a regular churchgoer. My own mother, now deceased, while alive, was being treated for clinical depression. The churchgoer is from a family that practiced generational witchcraft (fortune tellers), and my own mother used a ouija board. The occult is a common denominator with many suffering from mental illness. You would be surprised how many people who suffer from mental illness come from families where one or all of the ancestors practiced witchcraft and dabbled in the occult. The problem is that witchcraft has become so common that is not considered sin anymore. In my experience, many so called pastors and healers are not Christians, many being witches, and are openly opposed to the Gospel. These either wittingly or unwittingly don’t ask their patients the right questions, and, so, ultimately their patients don’t get truly healed or delivered.

      I don’t need to defend anything. Just because you and others disagree with me, doesn’t mean you are right and I am wrong. And your opposition doesn’t deter me in the least. With your fair speeches and pleasant P.C. words, you will convince many, while I may only convince one. But that one will be free--totally and completely--while those you convince will be in bondage for the rest of their lives. I am deeply saddened by the lack of maturity and discernment on the part of many professed Christians. But, Jesus said it would be like this; so, I’m neither surprised nor deterred.

  5. Pam says:

    With modern science and technology, a “blind man” can simply wear glasses or
    have surgeries that may heal or help.
    A “lame” man , by birth or by accident, can be fit with prosthetics.
    Cancer patients are often healed with specific treatments, great strides being made towards cures for certain types.
    Diabetics now have insulin available.
    High blood pressure? Medicine.
    Deadly childhood and adult “plagues” (chicken pox etc) offer innoculations.
    Aspirin is an anti-inflammatory that eases pain.
    Childhood leukemia? Medicine and making great strides towards a cure.
    Seizure medications save the lives of “demon posessed” (???) epileptics
    There are medications nowadays that have been developed by gifted men,
    gifted by God, to help save lives and/or to enable normal, healthy, useful lives
    to be lived by His children.
    How simple-minded (and closed-minded, for that matter) to whisk away mental
    disorders as sin. Judging by your judgement, you sir are the sinner.
    You are a type needing serious renewing of the mind.
    Manic-depression is a much more accurate term than bipolar since we ALL have
    both severe sadness and extreme joy in this life. The difference is much like
    comparing a sugar high after an overload and life-threatening diabetes coming on
    without any sugar being consumed.
    Those of us who suffer from psychiatric disorders (differences from the “normal order”) suffer greatly. The medications that work save families, relationships, jobs, and most importantly, lives.
    Why would any “sane” person suggest that any other person be deprived of a
    sane life?
    Psychiatric illnesses are GROSSLY overdiagnosed. I believe that is because
    a) Doctors and therapists are loose with their diagnosis to keep earning, among other reasons it behooves them to do so.
    b) They constitute a very very large number of disability claims and awards.
    All of that is unfortunate for those who really suffer and do NOT wish or try to
    claim that we are disabled. We wish to be useful to our fellow man.
    So, I’d suggest you judge not lest ye be judged and
    take the (sin) plank out of your own eye before you look for one in another’s.
    I could say so much more since I have experienced this dreadful condition for over 20 years. My doctor has “dubbed” me a doctor of my own illness because of my experiences with and without medication. (We tend to stop taking medication due MOSTLY to stigma and sometimes due to hoping we’re “cured:)
    He welcomes my input and allows me to be a partner in my care. He honors my wishes to lower doses in order to keep the treatment at a minimum.
    He has NEVER approved assistance in seeking disability because he knows from his
    own 45 years experience that this is treatable. It’s not curable -yet. And if ever it
    has been Excorcised then it was not truly manic depression. Perhaps these cases
    are emotional distress or demon posession or simply phony.
    I pray that you may be given an open mind rather than insisting you will NEVER
    believe anything but your own opinion. Opinions aren’t based on facts, they are
    determined by information and interpretation based on point of view.
    Be thankful in this: that your mind is closed and your brain falls within the
    “normal” range.
    Just be thankful. It’s a terrible illness.
    Perhaps only Alzheimers Disease can rival it.
    (There is no cure in sight for that either, nor many treatments that have much affect)
    Perhaps the brain and the mind are not the same. Perhaps both, however, are so complex that they will always only be truly understood in the Mind of God.
    Thank you for listening to an opposing, educated, experienced voice on this subject.
    May God bless you.

    • Thank you, Pam, for sharing your thoughts in such a charitable manner. All I am trying to do is offer an alternative, when mental health and medical solutions fail. If you listen to the podcast that accompanies this article, you will hear me say that I know that not all illnesses are spiritual, and that there are indeed medical causes for some illnesses. The problem, however, is that this is not always the case; yet, modern science totally disregards the spiritual to the hurt of many. The majority of medical and mental health professionals are not Christian, and so they do not believe that oftentimes the cause of many psychological illnesses are spiritual and, therefore, cannot be cured or even effectively treated purely by medical means. But mental illness is increasing at such an alarming rate, that a growing number of physicians and mental health professionals are beginning to consider the possibility of a spiritual cause of many physical and psychological disorders.

      For example, Christian counselor Kurt Koch, in the book, Occult Bondage and Deliverance quoted psychiatrist Dr. William S. Reed to have said, “Many mental and physical illnesses result, in fact, from demonic attacks. Exorcism must therefore be given a place within present day psychiatry and medicine” (pp. 14-15). In the same book, Koch, quoting an English psychiatrist, writes, “If I were able to obtain forgiveness for the sins of the patients in my clinic, I would be able to discharge half of them tomorrow” (p. 13). And Koch quotes a Christian neurologist as saying, “60% of the inmates of my psychiatric clinic are not so much suffering from mental illness as from occult subjection or even demonization” (p. 12).

      While I don’t agree with all of Koch’s assertions, he makes a very good case for the connection between mental illness and the demonic, especially epilepsy. It was Koch’s writing that first led me to consider that my own daughter’s epilepsy may have been demonic, which it was. As I relate in the podcast, when I asked my daughter’s epilepsy doctor if she thought that epilepsy may have an other than medical cause, she told me that both her mother and husband suffer from epilepsy and that she was unable to help either of them. While not all epilepsy is demonic, the Bible makes it clear that in many cases, it is. It certainly was in the case of my daughter.

      You say that I am closed minded and will never believe anything but my own opinion. But this is not true. I was one of the biggest skeptics that ever lived. My motto was, “I’m from the Show Me State,” and I would not believe anything unless I could see it with my own two eyes. Jesus changed all that. When I got saved, I told Him that I would put Him to the test, and that is exactly what I did. When I read Koch’s book, I asked Jesus to show me whether what he says was true or not, and I learned that, regarding mental illness and the demonic, Koch, as well as others, was dead on.

      If I had been closed minded, I would never have taken Koch seriously, and my daughter would probably have epilepsy this very day. But, grace be to God, I prayerfully considered what Koch said and went to the Bible for proof, which I found. Later, I took the steps necessary to deliver my daughter, who was first diagnosed with epilepsy when she was four years old, and was delivered when she was six. She will be eighteen years old this year, God willing, and she has never had another seizure. Jesus is Lord, and the devil is a liar!

      I have to constantly remind my daughter, however, that Satan has not given up on her. The first time was on me; but, now, it is all on her. It was a lot easier when she was a preteen, but now that she is almost a woman, it has been a constant struggle. We suffered one setback, as she has rebelled as do all teenagers. But, thankfully, until now, she has not descended into the type of sin that would cause her to be revisited by the demonic presence that caused her epilepsy. Now, because of what I have seen, I am a witness that there is certainly a spiritual war going on. Satan is not only after our souls; he is also after our minds.

      Your own words prove that you and I agree more than you admit. You made a very revealing statement: “If ever it (manic depression) has been Excorcised then it was not truly manic depression. Perhaps these cases are emotional distress or demon possession or simply phony.” This echoes my beliefs and those of Koch, who, quoting a renown psychiatrist, writes, “If a case of epilepsy can be cured medically, the demonic is not involved. If, however, the illness can be cured by prayer, then it was not an instance of epilepsy” (p. 10). If mental illness cannot be cured medically, then it is, in all likelihood, not medical. In such a case, we should, at the very least, consider the possibility that the cause may not be medical, but spiritual.

      The Bible teaches that it is foolish to dismiss a matter without even considering it. Please meditate on this, for your own peace of mind.

      God bless you.


  6. M says:

    I read your article on Generational Curses and took the advice in earnest. I had never heard such a thing nor did I realize there was a difference from salvation and deliverance. It is worth a try so if I am no longer bi-polar and see that this is truth, I will post so in that event. I still do not agree with everything you’ve written (at this time) but I thank you none-the-less. After reading more of your posts and responses, I realized you are a biblically based, good intention-ed after Christ individual that is trying to help people and I think God can use this information for good so while I may not agree with everything, I thank you for sharing this information. God bless you.

  7. M says:

    Well, I read what you wrote about Generational Curses and took the advice in earnest. It is worth a try and if my bi-polar disorder disappears, I will take back everything I have said in my earlier reply and state so. I thank you for the information and it is worth praying with the Lord about to see what His will is in this situation. While I may not agree with everything you’ve written I have, after reading most replies and posts, come to better understand that you are basing much of what you are stating on biblical teachings of truth and what you have written is being shared out of love for your fellow man and from a heart that seeks/loves Jesus Christ. You’re intentions are good and I learned some things from your responses so I would like to take a second to say that while I may not agree on everything, I am grateful for your posts and I’m glad these are here to be seen and read. I think God can use this for good for those who love Him and He will make our paths straight so there is good in some of this. Thanks. God bless you.

  8. sarah says:

    i am christian i should know better that demons exist there alot of people who have demons especialy bc of sinful activity they often manifest if christ want to open our eyes that he is real and demons are act work to destroy us. salvation is the key to being free when we accept jesus then we can be made whole again the bible says we all fall short from the glory of god all have sin none is rightous just jesus, we need jesus to obtain help, he opening our eyes to the spiritual relm that it is real ,we didn’t make our selfes in this earth god did he loves us much that he died for us so we wouldnt perish ,no one is perfect give jesus a chance and you will not be dissapionted you with have joy and eternal life gbu all

  9. Laura says:

    There are definitely similarities between BD and schizophrenia but there are stark differences which enable psychiatrists to easily tell the difference between the two. Do a study on the symptoms of each and you, too, will know that while similarities exist, they are two difference illnesses that require a different set of medications.

    • Hi, Laura. You are very likely right that from a symptomatic standpoint, the two vary considerably; however, from a spiritual perspective, they are actually quite similar: in fact, the cure for both is exactly the same: Jesus.


  10. Jacinta says:

    I am considered to be Bipolar. Perhaps it is the enemy’s doing.
    I am a born again Christian.
    I just ask, if you or other Christians on here would say a prayer for me.
    Thank you

    • Born-again Christians can be bipolar, because bipolar disorder is caused by sin in your life that has not been confessed. Bipolar has nothing to do with your faith in Jesus Christ. You can be delivered of bipolar disorder if you confess the sin that brought it on. I will pray that the Holy Spirit will show you what sins you need to confess so that you can be set free. I had to do this myself after I got saved as I too was under a generational curse.

      • M says:

        I’m a born again christian that has confessed my sins and am in close relation with God. Christ himself has told me that “His grace is sufficient”. Yet I still suffer from bipolar disorder. How dare anyone say it’s a lack of confession or it’s your own fault for sinning that causes you to have bipolar disorder. Paul had a condition God did not take away yet He served the Lord faithfully as His servant. I hope anyone reading this hunk of junk realizes the loving God we have that is full of Grace to cover a multitude of sins and that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us to set us free from sin but that He began a work in us that is not yet complete … that all fall short of the glory of God and that we all have our cross to bear daily. Do not listen to this load of baloney on this log post saying it’s your own fault and you are doing something wrong to make yourself have this issue. How sad to be attacked. Last time I checked, Satan is an accuser of the bretheren so doubt anyone that is an accuser. We are to love one another and love God. It’s no different than the prosperity preachers out there teaching you’d be healed if only you believed more so it’s your own fault if you’re sick of have problems. It is not your fault if you are sick. Sometimes, we just get sick. It is what it is. The truth is, we live in a fallen imperfect world and the enemy uses that to his advantage. We all suffer in various ways and Jesus promises to never leave or forsake us. Do no listen to anyone saying it’s your fault. I can’t help that I am the way I am -- God is working in me and I put my faith in Him that even if I am not yet healed, I am healed by His stripes and one day, in heaven, will be whole as He would have me be. Know God loves you and He is with you always. His rod and his staff comfort us. He called us by name and we are precious in His sight.

    • Marie says:

      Praying for u in Jesus name

  11. Ashley Johnson says:

    Well I pray I get healed for whatever I have mentally. Lord please lead me to a deliverance ministry. In Jesus Name Amen

  12. Drip says:

    Christians accusing the mentally ill of being demonized. Why am I not surprised? Hey, you want to hear of a truly mentally ill entity, check out the murdering, lying, racist, homophobic, rape-advocating, child abusing, family-destroying, religiously oppressive and manipulative God of the Bible.

    As for people with actual psychological differences and struggles in daily life, I’m sorry that we have to deal with scum like this. Maybe they would have no need to preach to us “salvation” if they didn’t invoke within us the feeling that we have something spiritually wrong with us.

  13. kaytee says:

    I read “Pigs in the parlor” 30 years ago. It made me realize this issue is definitely affected by evil spirits. All the writers of the bible got depressed.All the people I know that get depressed, have awesome gifting from the Lord. I know a lot of depressed people. I have seen many get healed. My own beloved Tom not yet. The Lord said that He will always love and restore my beloved and that God Himself goes through depression ups and downs too. the only scripture I can offer with what I heard from Him about that is ” But if ye will not hear it, my soul shall weep in secret places for your pride; and mine eye shall weep sore, and run down with tears, because the Lord’s flock is carried away captive.”Jer.13:17 and it could be Jeremiah rather than the Lord speaking, but I feel it is the Lord grieving. Prophetic gifted people carry a backpack of the peoples shame. sometimes without demons. so it is important not to rigidly believe it is always demons causing the depression. I am grateful for this hopeful helpful blog. and pray it will increase reader’s faith

    • We must understand that there is a difference between the depression caused by particular circumstances is different from the depression associated with bipolar disorder. Circumstancial depression generally subsides with time or with an improvement in circumstances, whereas bipolar depression actually worsens over time if not treated. There is certainly evidence to suggest that many of the writers of the Bible dealt with being down because of persecutions, or, as in the case of Moses, carrying the weight of the sins of his people. This is normal, and cannot be associated with bipolar disorder. Bipolar depression, however, can come on a person when everything in his life is going right as it is not caused or affected by circumstance. This is often the most troubling aspect of bipolar disorder for the sufferer: how a person can be up one minute and down the next for no particular reason. My own mother, who suffered from bipolar disorder and depression, often said that she could be in a roomful of people and feel totally alone.

      True, many gifted people get depressed. But, again, this is not clinical depression: the kind caused by bipolar disorder. We must make that distinction when addressing this issue. Bipolar depression is caused by demonic activity, and the litmus test of bipolar depression is what people do when affected by bipolar depression, whether up or down. Suicide, for instance, is typical among bipolar people. However, not one writer in the Bible and not one Bible-belieiving Christian I know of, has taken his own life because of depression. There is a clear reason for this: 1 Timothy 1:7.

      Thank you for your support of this blog and for your prayers for this ministry.


  14. waveriding says:

    For those like myself who truly suffer from the ‘disease’ of Bipolar, your statements/assumptions/excuses(demonic! hah!) do more harm in it’s understanding than any perceived good.
    The Still Man’s statement that “Because I had heard somewhere that bipolar disorder and schizophrenia are the same” only proves your moronic understanding of mental illness-and very DANGEROUS assumptions.You are WRONG.
    I’m 100% with D.R on this.
    Unless you personally have experienced,you will NEVER truly understand.But I dare you to try.
    I came to this blog to try to discover why christians can never & will never truly understand(refuse to actually!) all that is real about mental illness-in whatever form.
    Even my own family are unable & refuse to even acknowledge the concept of mental illness being the SIMPLE consequence of a misfiring brain.They (my family)appear too muddled in their ‘spirituality’ to grasp basically presented FACTS.
    I repeat again-we are still discovering more about BP all the time-but I refuse to rely on stoneage propoganda & misconceptions……or inane quotes.(Churchill-a politician!!)
    The bible is NOT a peer reviewed medical journal ! Encylopedia’s are a REFERENCE-a starting point ie not definitive!
    Learn how to discover INFORMATION.If that involves you reading ” literally billions of books” on the subject.You better get cracking!
    Why do you allow your ‘spirituality’ to deny you the right to DISCOVER & ask questions !?
    I hope you are able to discover before assuming that you have the right to make MEDICAL conclusions for & on our behalf.
    Here is a hard FACT for all to digest :There is indeed a cure for BP,unfortunately for most this involves suicide.

    • To the contrary: I have not made any medical conclusions, in fact, I flat out stated that BIPOLAR DISORDER IS NOT MEDICAL. And I have not drawn any conclusions on the behalf of anyone. I have merely stated my opinion, based on the Bible. I challenge you to re-read your comment and see that your words are not those of an individual who is thinking clearly. Your last line proves it, as you say that the cure for bipolar “involves suicide.” That statement is demonic, as only Satan, who comes to kill, steal, and destroy, would endorse such an evil and pointless solution to a very fixable problem. So, by your very words, you have proven my point that bipolar disorder is demonic.

      You say that your family refuses to believe that bipolar disorder is medical. I would be interested to know if any of them, besides yourself, are bipolar, because, if not, it might prove beneficial for you to at least consider what they are proposing, if it is working for them, because what you believe is clearly not working for you. Believe me, you have not truly lived until you have lived a day in your right mind, which involves more than just being able to function.

      As for being able to truly understand bipolar, I prefer not to understand it as well as you do: that is, as an insider: a sufferer of the disorder. I’d rather just trust Jesus about mental illness and live bipolar free. I prefer to be in my right mind 24/7, so I will allow you to endure the bondage and torment of information while I will continue to enjoy the freedom and peace of wisdom and knowledge: the kind of peace that can only come through a relationship with Jesus Christ. You could enjoy the same peace, if you would only believe you could.

      God bless you.


      • Cissy says:

        I have read both of ya’ll’s comments and I disagree with The Still Man in a lot of ways.
        When I was 19 I actually committed suicide, you see I took 36 muscle relaxers and my heart had stopped for very close to 2 mins, and what was weird was killing myself never entered my mind, and actually don’t remember doing it.
        After some pretty intense therapy it was discovered that I was born a Manic Depressant, and the definition given back then was you could either hurt someone else or yourself.( skipping ahead a few years now) I went through years of therapy and medications, to about 4 years ago where my psychiatrists says that I am re-classified as a Major Manic Depressant.
        I guess what I’m trying to say is that the type of depression that I was born with and Bipolar is MEDICAL and not caused by demonic activity, I believe in the Lord and his son Jesus Christ with all my heart and always have.

        • The proof that Bipolar Disorder is demonic is in your comment. By your own admission, committing suicide never entered your mind, yet you tried to kill yourself. If it was not your intention to kill yourself, then whose idea was it to take 36 muscle relaxers? I know whose idea it was: and so do you. Remember, Satan comes to kill, steal, and destroy.

    • Kojow says:

      Waveriding, by placing Christians in all the same boat your post is just as biased as The Still Man’s post. I recommend for both of you to look into some of the teachings from well-known Christian mental health therapists. Dr. Grant Mullen has some good teachings on the subject. He covers all three aspects of a person: body (including chemical imbalances), soul (including emotions), and spirit.

      • Many, if not most “well-known” so-called experts don’t have the discernment of the Holy Spirit and therefore, the spiritual maturity to receive the Bible’s teaching on the subject of mental health. While I can’t say that this is the case with Dr. Mullen, what I will say is that if what he teaches works for you, then by all means follow him. As for me, I prefer to take my biases and follow The Lord Jesus. God bless you.


  15. Cynthiea Donoho says:

    I am happy to find someone who finds bipolar to be a spiritual battle. You were the first one in my search. I hope to talk to you soon and read more of what you have written. P. S. What state are you in and do you have any ties in Indiana.

  16. Jacob says:

    Do you know why you could not find bipolar in the dictionary, encyclopedias, and other sources pre 1985? It was referred to as MANIC DEPRESSIVE DISORDER or manic depression. Sometimes just mania. I don’t disagree with your assertion that there is a spiritual component. I assure you that whatever name you choose to represent bipolar, it is not the same as schizophrenia. They may share similarities, but they are two different animals. I was diagnosed with a mood disorder NOS. Yes, I am born again. I await your comments and analysis.

    • True, Jacob: bipolar disorder was referred to as manic depressive order:

      “In recent years there has been a tendency to call [manic-depressive illness] ‘bipolar illness,’ or ‘bipolar affective disorder,’ because of the two diametrically opposite affects involved.” (Collier’s Encyclopedia, 1991, “Manic-Depressive Illness”.)

      However, it is necessary to point out that, according to Collier’s, experts are not in agreement as to what causes schizophrenia or what it is exactly. Collier’s says that the term schizophrenia was first introduced in 1911 by Swiss psychiatrist Eugen Bleuler. Prior to this, in 1896, German psychiatrist Emil Kraepelin distinguished the disorder from manic-depressive disorder, which he characterized primarily as mood swings. This implies that prior to this time, manic-depression and schizophrenia were thought to be either related or the same thing. It is important, however, to understand that Kraepelin’s findings are not universally accepted, as again, there is no universal consensus as to what causes the disorder or what it is; hence, it is referred to as a syndrome.

      Britannica, by the way, says this about schizophrenia:

      “The types of schizophrenia are not mutually exclusive. In addition to the mixture of schizophrenic symptoms, there may also be a mixture of schizophrenic symptoms with those of other psychoses, notably those of the manic-depressive group; patients exhibiting this combination are described as of a schizoaffective type.” (Encyclopedia Britannica, 1985, “Schizophrenia”.)

      You will notice how the symptoms associated with manic-depression (bipolar), showing up in patients diagnosed as schizophrenic, prompted experts to create a new classification, schizoaffective, a term which I had never heard of. This appears to be an attempt to distinguish the two disorders even though patients diagnosed with one exhibit symptoms of the other. Note that Britannica states that even the types of schizophrenia are not mutually exclusive, as symptoms of one type are also seen in patients diagnosed with another type.

      So what does that tell us? It tells me that the more they learn about mental disease, the less they actually know. The only thing that Collier’s and Britannica agreed on, which I found very interesting, was that both schizophrenia and bipolar disorder seem to be hereditary, though they can’t explain this. How, then, did they come to the conclusion that the disorders are hereditary? Because they did twin and adoption studies, as well as multi-generational studies and found that the disease was present in siblings as well as in parents and their children. That, to me, suggests a generational curse.

      I believe, my brother, that you are a born-again Christian. And I believe that you have been diagnosed with a mood disorder. The literature states that since experts do not know what causes these disorders, the only thing they can do is treat the symptoms. They will not, unfortunately, be able to cure you. The Bible has proven to my satisfaction that psychological disorders are spiritual and not medical, and are the result of a generational curse. I therefore urge you to consider that you might be under a generational curse and to take the steps that I outline in the article. You will, without a doubt, be set free. God bless you.

  17. Emily says:

    So we talked like a year ago when I was diagnosed bipolar. I’m in that awesome church and then God called me to bible college. All of my “bipolar” was spiritual attack and its gone now. I’ve been off medication for a year and I’m not going through anything like I used to. When I fasted, when you fasted with me, I didn’t actually make the whole amount of time and I ate, but on the morning the fast would have broken I threw up (I never throw up) and I felt like it was almost like a spiritual purging. I wasn’t like “so different” afterwards but its hard to explain, I was just on a different track after.

    The pastors wife did a lot of deliverances for me against the spirits of abandonment and blasphemy against the church and a few others. there was a time I couldn’t even be in the church during worship because I would get so nauseas, and the pastors wife would pray for me and put oil on my forehead and I would get horrible migraines, then she would be praying for me and ask me like “do you believe Jesus died and rose for your sins?” and I would try to answer but I would have muscle spasms around my mouth so I couldn’t talk. It was a really difficult time but Jesus got me through it and my life is good now.

    I’m gonna finish my biblical studies degree next year, and the Lord provided me with a job in the hospital and I found that I really want to be a nurse (I love my job:), There’s also a really amazing guy that God brought into my life so we’ll see how that goes. so thanks for all of your prayers. I hope your well, God bless :)

    • Praise God for your deliverance, Emily! It seems that you went through quite a battle, but I’m grateful that you understand that bipolar is spiritual and you are now a witness. I’m also very happy that you’re going to Bible school and that you found a job that you love. It really sounds like you’ve found your calling in life! I also wish you well with the guy that God has brought into your life.

      If I were to give you one word of caution, it would be to make sure to stay pure as far as the man in your life is concerned, so that the Lord will bless your relationship, and so Satan won’t use it as a doorway back into your life. And when you sin, make sure to confess those sins.

      I’m happy that things are going so well for your Emily. I’ve been praying for your victory since we talked, so it is really a pleasure to hear that you have claimed your victory. Now I can give Jesus the glory!

      I am well, praise God. God bless you, and keep in touch.

  18. David says:

    Psalm 103, God says “forget not” and “all your diseases”
    103 Bless the Lord, O my soul;
    And all that is within me, bless His holy name!
    2 Bless the Lord, O my soul,
    And forget not all His benefits:
    3 Who forgives all your iniquities,
    Who heals all your diseases,
    4 Who redeems your life from destruction,

  19. David says:

    I had another comment, where you said that we should be able to claim our immortality if we can claim healing. Well, is not that what we do when we put our faith in Jesus, that He has given us eternal life. I claim that is mine, by the Grace of God. Understanding, that we are made up of spirit, soul, and body. As believers we are given a new spirit, an alive, immortal, uncorruptible, everlasting spirit. And we know, that these bodies we live in now are mortal, but will eventually put on immortality when the Lord returns. It’s just that, while we are in these mortal bodies, the Lord promises blessings, and one is healing of these mortal bodies while we’re here on earth.
    It was also interesting to me that you say sickness is a result of sin. Well, what about Job. God called him a righteous man, but allowed sickness on him. It was a test of his faith, not because of sin. I do believe one’s sin can bring on sickness, but not always. Yes, there wouldn’t be sickness in the world if it wasn’t for the original sin of Adam and Eve, but sickness in one person is not a direct result of one’s sin. Jesus even talked about that with one of His healings. His disciples asked Him about this in John 9.

    • David, you may want to reread my response, as I said that sickness is caused by sin, but also can be brought on by God as punishment (such as eating the Lord’s Supper irreverently) or a trial as in the case of Job.

  20. David says:

    Hello Still Man, thank you for your response. Just to clarify, I didn’t mean that we as believers are exempt from sickness, but that the healing is there through our faith.
    Now on generational curses, I’m not going to waste my time reading you’re theory on this. I know what the Bible says, but for those that have put there faith in Christ, that curse is washed away once one first believes. When I first believed, I understood that I was a sinner and needed a Savior. I confessed all my sins to God, and accepted Jesus Christ to be my Lord and Savior. At that time, if there was any generational curse, it was washed away at that moment. If I haven’t been “set free” already, than I have made God out to be a liar, which is what you are doing Still Man. You are crucifying our Lord twice. Nowhere in the Bible does it say I have to confess sins of a generational curse. That’s just another Pharisee law that you have added to the Bible, and are trying to encourage us to put into practice. Do yourself a favor and remove that article on generational curses, so that you won’t bring condemnation on youself. Blessings brother!

    • Hello again, David.

      Indeed, the healing is there through faith, but it is still God’s sovereign prerogative to heal. We can compel Him to do nothing.

      It is a pity that you will not heed the teaching on generational curses and that you consider it a waste of time. You’re not the first person who believes that when he got saved all his sins, including generational ones, were healed. You’re also not the first person who names the name of Christ, yet suffers from mental illness. In that Jesus said that He has given Christians a sound mind (2 Timothy 1:7), aren’t you, in reality, calling Jesus Christ a liar? Please think about this.

      I have added nothing to the law: the teaching on generational curses is very clear. A person doesn’t have to confess one single sin in order to be saved, according to Romans 10:9 and Acts 8:37. What, then, does the Bible mean when it says “If we confess our sins, [Jesus] is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness?” (1 John 1:9). It is talking about the sins we commit after we are saved, including generational sin. I would know: I confessed generational sin, and Jesus forgave me and cleansed me of generational sin. And Jesus has worked mighty things in my life and the lives of my children.

      Interestingly, without exception, every person, with whom I’ve talk, that has gainsaid the teaching on generational curses has suffered from mental illness. I see Satan at work.

      I would be doing no one but Satan a favor if I were to remove the article on generational curses; for God only knows how many have been set free and will be set free because of it. Therefore, Satan must really hate that teaching. I praise the Lord Jesus for the way He has used you to let me know this!

      Well, David, I’m sorry that you reject the full counsel of God. It won’t affect your salvation, of course, but you certainly won’t be able to live the victory that Jesus purchased for you at Calvary with His own blood. And if you can’t live the victory, then you can’t have a testimony of victory. And that is a shame; for without a testimony of victory over mental illness, how can you possibly convince the unsaved suffering from mental illness that there is hope in Jesus? You can’t, in fact. And therein lies the tragedy.

      Notwithstanding, I still count you as a brother. May the grace, mercy, and peace of the Good Lord Jesus be with you and yours.

  21. David says:

    Hello Still Man,

    Thank you for your website, and it’s great to see you responding with great thoughtfulness to all these comments. Yes, the world and medical science will be more and more in these last days, trying to challenge our Lord Jesus Christ and His promises. I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder about 10 years ago. They diagnosed me originally with schizophrenia and then concluded with bipolar disorder. I agree they both have a lot of the same symptoms. Not too much of a difference. In the last 20 years I’ve been hospitalized 6 times, where my manic episodes had become psychotic. I have been on 2 or 3 meds at a time, on and off, for the last 10 years, and been beaten with all kinds of side affects from all the drug use. This last February I weaned myself off the meds, and had my last visit with the psychiatrist. I know this is all spiritual warfare, and it’s still been a battle for the last 7 months, but I have not gone into any manic episodes since being off the meds.

    I believe we need to understand that, as believers in Christ, the enemy is able to put thoughts in our minds. The problems I’ve had in these manic episodes is going along with thoughts, thinking they are from God or something that is good, and it has led me into many dark places. The thoughts seem so real and so right with what I’m doing, but what it is, is me getting led astray by evil. Yes, God’s Word through the Apostle Paul, says we are given a spirit of a sound mind. We need to take these evil thoughts captive as God’s Word tells us to. I have decided to take a different approach, and that is to fully trust the Lord, in that He not only went to the cross for our sins, but also for our healing. It was finished at the cross. So the healing is already there, it’s just a faith condition. All the healings Jesus did, as recorded in the Bible, were done by one’s faith. Of course, Jesus as God had the power to heal, but healing was never done without the faith of a believer. So I am now reaching out in full faith that I am healed from this so-called disorder. I can walk around the rest of my life taking meds and holding on to a disorder or trust in the Lord. The Bible says to trust in the Lord with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength. I’m chosing to follow His Word.

    I know all of this is very touchy for so many people who have been diagnosed with so many different illnesses, and I feel for you all. It’s like Still Man said, I’m just going off my experience and what the Lord says in His Word. He gave us promises brothers and sisters, and we need to know them and take them, as God desires us to.

    I wanted to make a comment on one of your responses, relating to the passage of Paul, and asking God to heal him. Actually, I don’t believe Paul ever asked for healing, he asked for the thorn in his flesh to be removed. In King James Version 2 Corinthians 12:7 tells us what the thorn in the flesh was, and it was not an illness. It was a messenger of Satan to buffet him. The word buffet means to strike or attack repeatedly. These attacks are infirmities, reproaches, necessities, persecutions, distresses. Well, in 2 Corinthians 11 it talks about all of these attacks on Paul, and his infirmities were nothing about sickness or illness. There was weariness and weakness and pain, but not illness or disease. The reason why was because of Paul’s faith in Christ alone.

    In Christ we’re not under the of curse of the law. That is where sickness and illness come from. God promised to keep us from the curse of the law by sending His Son to the cross, if we put our faith in Him. I think we need to be studying faith, and what True faith is. Blessings brothers and sisters in Christ, Lord be with you!

    • Thank you, David, for your comment and for being so frank and sincere about your struggles. I especially appreciate that you realize mental illness is a form of spiritual warfare and that Satan can and does put evil thoughts into our minds that masquerade as righteous thoughts.

      You are correct when you say that we need to take evil captive, however, we do not do this by claiming our healing, as nowhere does Scripture say that we are healed from all sickness and that we need only claim our healing. If it is His will, Jesus will heal us, but if it is not, then He won’t. The Bible teaches that if we ask anything in accordance with God’s will, then He will hear our prayers (1 John 5:14). But, just because God hears us when we call on Him for healing, does not mean that God is obliged to heal us.

      With regards to Paul, the “thorn in his flesh” was, in fact, a physical ailment; for Galatians 4:13 seems to imply that Paul had a problem with his sight. He may have even been legally blind. Paul makes it clear that this ailment was intended to humble him and to keep him from being “exalted above measure” (2 Corinthians 12:7). As you recall, God gave Paul a glimpse of Heaven: something that only one other man was allowed to see without passing through the veil. In other words, God allowed Satan to inflict Paul so that he wouldn’t get the big-heads.

      I have heard this argument before: that neither Paul nor anyone else in the first century Church contended with sickness or disease. But pastor Timothy suffered from stomach problems and was often sick (1 Timothy 5:23), and Epaphroditus was sick “nigh unto death.” It is a fallacy to believe that Christians aren’t supposed to get sick and wouldn’t get sick if they would only claim their healing. Sickness is one of Satan’s favorite ways to persecute the body of Christ. God also allows us to get sick as punishment (1 Corinthians 11:30) and as a trial (Job).

      Sickness does not come from the law. Sickness comes from sin. The Bible teaches that sin brought death into the world (Romans 5:12). If death came from sin, then sickness came from sin. And if “death reigned from Adam to Moses” (Romans 5:14): that is, before the law, then sickness was in the world before the law. And we know that this is true. Moreover, if Jesus’ death purchased healing from sickness for us, and we need only claim it, then we should also be able to claim our immortality now also; for Scripture teaches that through death, Jesus destroyed him who had the power of death, that is, the devil. Following this faulty logic, then we should not only conclude that Christians should never die, but that Satan should be dead also. Do you see where all this could go in a hurry?

      It is because of our mortal bodies that we get sick and die, because the body is cursed with sin. This is why Paul said that he at times sinned, unwillingly, but comforted himself with the knowledge that it wasn’t he who sinned, but “sin that dwelleth in me” (Romans 7:20): that is, his mortal body.

      Those who chose to believe that they should not get sick will never fully realize the victory that the blood of Jesus bought for them at Calvary. Because we will all get sick at some point in our lives, then the Christian who claims his healing but still gets sick, or never gets better, will always feel that something is wrong in his Christian walk. This will inevitably lead to a crisis of faith. I know a pastor who adheres to this very belief and whose family is facing this very issue.

      Because 2 Timothy 1:7 says that God has given us a sound mind, then this is one kind of healing that Christians have a right to, because a Christian without a sound mind has no discernment, and a Christian without discernment cannot resist the devil. And we are admonished to do just that. Because I believe that mental illness is a result of generational sin, and is a curse, I believe that a person with mental health issues needs to confess his sins to God rather than merely ask God for healing. This is taking sin captive by taking action. Several people have written me saying that they have asked God for healing from mental illness and God did not heal them. That is because, I believe, Bipolar Disorder is caused by demonic activity in a person’s life and that activity cannot be stopped unless the demon causing the activity is cast out. And a person can do this only if 1. He is saved 2. He confesses the generational sin that brought the demon into his life.

      I urge you therefore, David, to prayerfully read our article on generational curses, and to follow the instructions therein, so that you may be set free. It would be a shame for you to have come this far in your Christian walk only to throw a roadblock in front of yourself due to a faulty understanding of God’s will. Please think this over. God bless you and all your house.

  22. Aubrey says:

    Hi Still man,
    I disagree that if you accept Jesus as your savior, you will be completely healed. God won’t heal you unless you ask for healing. I have bipolar, PTSD, panic disorder, and anxiety disorder w agoraphobia. I have prayed time and again for healing and I’m slow on the long path god has laid out to me to healing. I think Sometimes god gives these illnesses because it is part of his plan for you- to constantly seek out his help.

    • Hi Aubrey. You sound like a very intelligent, thoughtful, and sober individual, who has thought this through and, after asking several times to be delivered, to no avail, has come to believe that it is God’s plan in her life. Understand that I am not a subject matter expert on mental illness and don’t pretend to be. But (and this is a huge but), I do understand the biblical position on mental illness. 2 Timothy 1:7 makes it very clear that God has given the faithful believing Christian 1. Power, 2. Love, and 3. A SOUND mind. Notice that good health is not on the list. I believe this is because, as you correctly point out, God allows us to be sick for various reasons. Paul asked for healing and the Lord Jesus did not heal him, because God’s power was to be shown in Paul’s weakness.

      But you will notice that many saints like Paul, Timothy, and Epaphroditus were often ill, yet not one of them suffered from mental illness: not one. Though Paul said he was often weary and exhausted, he was always in his right mind. In fact, he tells the Hebrews that they ought to look unto Jesus as an example of enduring persecution “lest they should grow weary, and faint in their minds” (Hebrews 12:3). The Apostle Peter also exhorts us to “be sober” (1 Peter 5:8). We cannot be sober if we are not in our right mind.

      Lastly, I didn’t mean to imply that accepting Jesus as your Savior will completely heal you. It is merely the first step. I believe that mental illness, from simple anxiety attacks to severe schizophrenia, is the result of a generational curse, and I have seen nothing but evidence to support this. If you are truly serious about being set free from mental illness, then may I suggest that you read our article on generational curses. It is very comprehensive and focuses on confession of sin, generational and otherwise, as the key to being set free. I know it works, because I was once in bondage to Satan because of generational sin and have been set free doing exactly what I outline in the article.

      Resist the temptation to gainsay this, Aubrey. Remember that Naaman, the Syrian general, whom the prophet Elisha healed of leprosy, doubted at first, until a servant basically told him that he had nothing to lose in doing what Elisha told him to do. And Naaman was healed. You can too. I’m a witness.

  23. Emily says:

    Oh man! you would really fast with me! thats so amazing. I am going to fast monday through thursday. Thank you for everything you said. Its so cool that even though Ive never met you we can still have fellowship through christ.

    • It’s simple Emily: If you are serious about being set free, then I am equally serious about wanting to see you set free, and I’ll do what I can to help. So, I will be fasting with you, and praying for your victory. Yes, fellowship is a good thing isn’t it?! So, on Friday, shoot me an email or comment and let me know how it went.

      God’s grace go with you, as you shake the vestiges of generational sin from your life forever!

  24. Emily says:

    Hi there

    I really agree with what you said. I’ve been diagnosed bipolar for a year and I’ve been a Christian for a few years but I just got connected with a church that loves Jesus and the bible and who is well aware of the spiritual warfare that we’re in. And three months in that church and leaning into Christ the voices have gone my mood swings have calmed. I still have a lot of spiritual stuff like nausea and head aches during prayer and worship. BUT that’s alright I’m going to be starting a fast in a few days so I can just really seek the Lord and try to root out the sin that’s giving the devil a foot hold. so pray for me :) and praise Jesus

    • Hi Emily.

      I’m thankful that you appreciate that we really are in a spiritual war, and that mental illness plays a significant part in it. You are so blessed to have found a church where the Truth is preached. They can be a big help to you. You are definitely on the right track going into prayer and fasting. You may also want to check out our article on generational curses. It can help you, as you so aptly put it, “root out the sin that’s giving the devil a foothold.” I will be praying for your victory! Yes, praise the Lord Jesus for His goodness!

      • Emily says:

        ya i did look at that page my grandpa was in the freemasons and the kkk. I have a full family history of occultic stuff and warped spirituality. So i have a lot to bring to the lord. Even as I’m preparing for my fast I’ve been under loads of spiritual attack so I was gonna do what you did and make a list and pray through it. oh man there is so much more i could say but i’ll just leave it at that. Anyway keep doing the Lords work your such a blessing :) p.s Even after i had read this page i went to bed and started getting the spins i rebuked it and it went but i thought i was going to throw up it was awful

        • By all means do make a list, Emily. It is the best way to make sure you don’t leave anything important out. It is no surprise that you are under spiritual attack, as Satan knows full well what you are about to do, and he doesn’t like it one bit. But you just go right on with it. One blessing that you have is knowing your family history. You don’t have to guess what the issues are that you must confess. Freemasonry, as you probably know, is witchcraft, so it needs to be confessed, as does your grandfather’s involvement in the kkk, which is an occult organization that has committed many atrocities, including murder. All these must be confessed. You are a very brave and sincere woman, and I admire you for having the guts to stand up for truth and to confess evil openly. I don’t take lightly what you are up against, Emily, so, please, let me know ASAP what day you are planning to fast and I will see if I am able to fast also. I want to stand with you in this.

  25. joyful651 says:

    I have lots of friends taking depakote for years. It never helped any of them. Your opinions give me hope for them, that deliverance is near. No condemnation for any that only go the medical route. Hope is a good thing. Jesus is more powerful than any drug.

  26. joyful651 says:

    often, people are healed of diseases after Jesus casts out a demon. I agree with Still man. but you are right we should all speak the truth in love

    • Thank you, Joyful. I saw Jesus heal my daughter from epilepsy. So, I know full well what He can do.

      I do speak the truth in love. But, because my intention is to wake up the Christian Church, I blow a trumpet rather than play a harp, and I guess that sometimes gives people the wrong impression. But I know the commission I have been given of the Lord, and He is not displeased.

  27. youareabigot says:

    If you are not interested or concerned enough to do the research to back up an article stating things as “facts”, then you have no business writing one. The fact that you rigidly use one (incorrect by the way) definition of a word that has many uses shows that you don’t even know how to use a dictionary correctly. But let’s say that your “definition” is correct for argument’s sake: that’s literally what a disease is, a group of symptoms. To give you an example of how your argument makes no sense at all I’ll take it away from mental illness since you obviously have a bias that prevents you from understanding anything in that field. Diabetes is a disease. It is made up of the group of symptoms that include excessive urinating, feeling thirsty, tired, blurry vision and wounds healing slowly, among others. The cause of diabetes is a problem with how the pancreas produces insulin. The symptoms are how the disease, illness or disorder (which are all synonyms) affects the person. The cause is not dependent on what the symptoms are.

    I don’t believe you have ever read the Encyclopedia Britannica because it says exactly what I said about what the symptoms of each completely different illness are. You taking the root origin of the word bipolar into the illness’s meaning so literally that you interpret it’s major characteristic as being two-poled makes as much sense as a person saying that because caterpillar originates from the french for shaggy cat it means that they are shaggy cats. And my esteem for a doctor has nothing to do with whether or not they are all-knowing beings the way you seem to demand they be. There are many things that we didn’t know about medicine 100 years ago that we know today and in the same way there are many things we don’t know today that will one day be discovered. Next, just because we have a lot of knowledge about a thing and we can treat it doesn’t mean that there isn’t more knowledge to find and that we can cure it. Another example for you: just because we have a plethora of knowledge about cancer does not mean that we can cure it and it also doesn’t invalidate the knowledge or the treatments that we have to manage the symptoms. Just as with cancer, mental illness is not curable. But if the treatment is effective it can go into remission.

    And Jesus Christ can cure any ailment, that does not mean that it isn’t a disease with legitimate causes. Jesus cured lepers, blind men and lame men. That does not at all mean that suffering from leprosy, blindness or lameness means that a person has a spiritual ailment such as demonic influence. All that says to me is that God is all powerful and that is obvious. No, those are ailments of the body; just like bipolar is an ailment of the mind, and Jesus can cure any ailment in the body, mind or spirit. Period. And oh? really? the term bipolar was created in 1980? That is ridiculous and it is historical fact available to any person with a library or internet access that that is not true and that is has been used for hundreds of years. Why don’t you show me the research you did? It would make sense though that a person who is not interested or concerned enough to do research would claim something that incorrect as fact. Just because the illness became popularly addressed as bipolar by the vast, uneducated masses in the 80’s doesn’t mean that the term originates from that time. And no, manic depression is bipolar absolutely not schizophrenic. The forms of schizophrenia are paranoid, disorganized, catatonic, undifferentiated and residual. I don’t feel like explaining them to you, but trust me when I say that I have actually done the research that mania is exclusive to bipolar and occurs in no other mental illness. And that is actually a fact.

    Also, you absolutely were hateful to that woman. You called her names such as a bad person and a filthy mouthed child. And if you can’t see how there was a very threatening undertone to what you said to her then I’m not going to spell it out for you. And you know what? It is not a sin to call water wet just as it is not a sin to call a fool a fool. If she did apologize, which I doubt, it was to avoid getting dragged to your level, because she realized how far gone you were or because you intimidated her. From your words I drew my beliefs about your daughter. You said it was medicine for psychotic people. I know for a fact that a lot of medicines are used for psychosis or for epilepsy. You have no idea what I believe, so don’t assume. It is possible to completely believe in the Bible without condemning medicine. And of course they couldn’t cure her of epilepsy, as I’ve said some diseases are incurable at the moment. Jesus said that to his disciples and you are most definitely not a discipline of his. Your words are a proof of that. If God answered your prayer of relieving her symptoms than that is great, but don’t be so vain as to think that it was through your power. And I believe Jesus more than I believe anything. Me not being stuck in the dark ages and understanding modern medicine has nothing to do with my faith. But you trying to spread fear, ignorance, self righteousness, pride and oppositional attitudes has a lot to do with yours.

  28. youareabigot says:

    The only reason that I made a profile was because I could not read something this ignorant, offensive and blasphemous without responding. The reason that you had never heard of bipolar disorder is because you are obviously unbelievably ignorant. If you weren’t then you would know about the book “On Etiology and Symptomatology of Chronic Illnesses” by Aretaeus of Cappadocia (written in the 2nd century A.D.) which recognized that mania and depression were linked, about how ancient Greeks and Romans used the term “mania” and would use natural Lithium springs to cure people suffering from it, how in 1686 Swiss doctor Théophile Bonet did studies that linked mania and depression, how manic-depressive psychosis was first classified as a mental illness by Jean-Pierre Falret in the 1850’s, how also in the 1850’s Jules-Gabriel-François Baillarger distinguished a marked difference between schizophrenia and bipolar, about how Sigmund Freud used psychoanalysis with bipolar patients in the 1900’s, about how in the 1950’s Karl Leonhard noted the difference between unipolar and bipolar depression, about the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (first published in 1952) which lists the criteria for a person to be diagnosed as bipolar, or the DSM II, DSM III, DSM IV or DSM V which have all added to the medical information we have on mental illness. But you don’t know any of that because you are ignorant and choose to be that way because of your stubbornness and pride.

    Also, just to clear things up there are two types of bipolar. Bipolar I is when one or more manic episodes have occured, along with depression. Bipolar II is when depression is present along with at least one hypomanic episode. A manic episode is diagnosed when a person meets three or more of these criteria for more than a week: increased self-esteem or grandiosity, decreased need for sleep, being more talkative than usual or under pressure to keep talking, flight of ideas or subjective experience that thoughts are racing, distractibility, increase in goal-directed activity or psychomotor agitation, excessive involvement in pleasurable activities that have a high potential for painful consequences. A depressive episode is when a person meets five or more of these criteria for more than two weeks: depressed mood most of the day, diminished interest or pleasure in all or most activities, significant unintentional weight loss or gain, insomnia or sleeping too much, agitation or psychomotor retardation noticed by others, fatigue or loss of energy, feelings of worthlessness or excessive guilt, diminished ability to think or concentrate, or indecisiveness, recurrent thoughts of death. Schizophrenia is when a person has two or more of these criteria for at least a month: delusions, hallucinations, disorganized speech, catatonic behavior or flat affect. So to simplify it for your simple mind, bipolar has been documented by medical professionals since Biblical times and it has been common knowledge that Schizophrenia and Bipolar are two very different illnesses for hundreds of years.

    Also, you say that doctors don’t know what causes these illnesses and that is just untrue. The cause of all mental disorders is an imbalance in neurotransmitters, abnormalities in chromosomes and environmental factors such as trauma or stress. You are spinning webs of lies, prejudice and conspiracy in the name of Jesus Christ, and that is blasphemy. Maybe the “civilian” doctor told you that your daughter was developmentally challenged in a harsh way but from what I’m reading of your experiences the doctors gave you very similar diagnoses but because of your pride and your stigmatization of any neurological illness you heard them differently because of the terms that they used. Also, I believe that they didn’t give your daughter the wrong medication. I believe that was once again your stigmatizing attitude and ignorance rearing it’s ugly head. Many anti-convulsants (epilepsy medicine) are also used as anti-psychotics. Even more offensive than your complete lack of facts is the way that you act while calling yourself a Christian. The way that you are twisting the Bible’s words and using Jesus’ name is appalling.

    You even condemned and spouted a lot of self-righteous hatred towards a woman all because of one word that bruised your fragile ego. You need to look into your heart and see how wrong you are, if you are capable, for your own salvation on Judgement Day. Remember Matthew 7: 21-23 says “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ The will of the Father is to follow the Ten Commandments, the Golden Rule and to practice the Fruits of the Spirit. This article is a sin, as is your attitude in general.

    • YouAreABigot, there is just no way I would know about the book by Aretaeus of Cappadocia, unless I were interested or concerned enough to have done the research. There are literally billions of books out there. I couldn’t possibly read them all, and neither could you. You say that doctors know what causes bipolar disorder. I’m telling you that the very use of the term disorder implies that they don’t have a clue what causes it, as a disorder is “a group of signs and symptoms.” My daughter’s epilepsy doctor told me that she didn’t know what causes epilepsy, and that she couldn’t help her own mother and husband who both suffered from the disease. I read in the Encyclopedia Britannica that doctors don’t know what causes schizophrenia. How could they, then, know what causes bipolar disorder, especially when the two share identical symptoms? If they know what causes bipolar disorder, then why don’t they give it a concrete name, rather than call it by its major characteristic which is “two-poled” or manic-depressive? You must understand that the foundation of the medical establishment is trust. How much would you trust your doctor if he always said “I don’t know?”

      You give an incredible amount of information about mental illness. With so much information available, why is it that there are millions, possibly even billions (or at least a billion) of people walking around with mental illness, many of whom are under treatment? It is because not all information is knowledge, even if it sounds so. Jesus cured mental illness. And He never said one thing about neurotransmitter imbalance, chromosome abnormalities, or environmental factors. Jesus simply cast out the demons that caused those people to have mental illness. Period.

      You say schizophrenia and bipolar disorder are “two very different illnesses.” I tell you I did the research, and the term bipolar disorder came into being in 1980, while the symptoms associated with bipolar were being treated before then as schizophrenia, one form of which is manic depression. That’s a fact.

      You say that I condemned and expressed hatred towards a woman who supposedly bruised my ego. Did you know that same woman has written me and apologized? She even tried several times to get me to delete her comment, because, in her own words, she hates the fact that every time she googles her name and bipolar disorder, this article comes up in the search results, with the word “moron,” which she called me, standing out for all to see. She realizes that her attitude was inappropriate for a Christian, which she claimed to be. Jesus said, “Be thou angry, but sin not.” Getting angry is not a sin, but what we do and say when we get angry can be.

      You say that you don’t believe they gave my daughter the wrong medication. You weren’t even there, so how could you know? You don’t know, in fact. You believe. And your beliefs are the root of your problems. You choose to believe what the medical establishment, which is not Christian, has to say about mental illness, rather than believe what the Bible has to say about it. Jesus cured mental illness. I did the same with my daughter, who, by the way, the doctors could not cure of epilepsy. Jesus said, “Greater things than these you will do, because I go to my Father.” If you believed Jesus half as much as you believe what you believe, you might do the same.

      • notsurprised says:

        We are ALL sinners. I hate that christians treat other christians as though they weren’t human. That is why there is so much phoniness in the church. I can’t say “moron” without receiving a puritanical, accusatory lecture. Fake.

        • The reason there is so much phoniness in the Church is because many Christians have forgotten that Jesus told us that we are “not to be conformed to this world, but transformed by the renewing of our minds” (Romans 12:2). It may be OK for unsaved folks to call people names when they disagree with them, but, as Christians, we should not do this. We are to be “quick to hear, but slow to speak” (James 1:19). We are to think first and measure what we say, before we open our mouths and say something we regret.

          The Apostle Paul tells us that we should use “sound speech that cannot be condemned” (Titus 2:8). In this day and age, call anyone a moron--especially if they know you consider yourself a Christian--and see how fast you will be condemned.

          You want a puritanical, accusatory lecture? Try Jesus on for size:

          “If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man’s religion is vain” (James 1:26).

          “The tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold how great a matter a little fire kindleth!

          “The tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body,
          and setteth on fire the course of hell.

          “The tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison” (James 3:5-8).

  29. Sean says:

    I unfortunately thanks to some german doctor was mis diagonsed with bibolora for 6 years of my life i was on depakote, which permantly damaged my mind, i became a VERY slow learner and it had damaged my apatite that i was very underweight all because of this so called bipoor disorder

    • I believe that bipolar is 100% demonic and is the result of a generational curse. I even have family members who are “bipolar.”

      • Sean says:

        Thanks to the doctor my mind was so messed up that i was way behind my classmates. I did not have a disorder I was troubled at the time do my parents divorce. Thank god for my grandmother and god for convincing my mother to take me off it but it still affects me to this day.

        • I’m so sorry that this happened to you. I have plenty of experience with German doctors and misdiagnoses.

          • Sean says:

            its ok now im on new medication vivance for my adhd if idont take it i tend to get REALLY hyper and bounce off the walls. though i do hate how if i forget to take it i go off the wall

  30. Anne says:

    I have to say I am gobsmacked.

    First off, please educate yourself before posting such medieval, damaging, dribble.
    Also if you take great offence to somebody not only disagreeing with you but insulting you rather tamely, I have to assume your ego needs checking. You sir are not Jesus Christ nor a chosen one. You are a man spreading negative views on a spectrum of illnesses still being scientifically investigated. Just because they haven’t worked it out doesn’t mean it’s not happening or that it deserves to be interpreted as demonic possession. The fact you also attribute epilepsy to possession and have claimed to have exorcised your own daughter sends out red flags in my mind.

    Mixing up mental illness and demonic possession is DANGEROUS and unnecessary. You are not helping those who do suffer. You are spreading stigma. You are encouraging shunning. If demonic possession does exist I don’t suppose for a second it takes a home in any of these conditions.

    You think googling ‘bipolar disorder’ or schizophrenia’ makes you an expert? You read a term which says ‘the splitting of the mind’ and take it literally?

    I’d like to put it in plain terms as I am a sufferer of manic depression.

    Manic depression is a disease of the brain. Some people don’t like this term so they swap it for others. There has in fact been a lot of recent scientific studies to prove it is a disease. The proof is it has a physical affect on the grey matter of the brain shrinking it by 10%. This means basics things such as language processing, memory and co-ordination can be affected. There is also some scientific research to back up there is truth to it having a genetic basis. For example if you related to a bipolar sufferer you are 10% more likely to develop it. Some people are born with it and others have it triggered through extreme times of stress or unfortunate circumstances. I was unfortunate to have inherited my disease from my grandfather.

    Another thing which bugs me and those who know little about this condition misinterpret time and time again is the literal taking of the term. The American re-naming of manic depression to ‘bipolar’ disorder is incorrect. Manic depression sufferers do not shift between two poles. It is not a case of Jekyl and Hyde!!! Instead they suffer from times or mania and depression, both of which can be deeply spiritual and enlightening periods of pain and suffering. Even in mania, a time which can make people aggressive, agitated, excited, thrill seeking, happy etc., a person isn’t going to just change into a monster. It’s a mood disorder which means your emotions are basically PMSing to extreme.

    Now, I assume you do not attribute such brain diseases as alzheimers or brain tumours to demonic possession. To think otherwise would be seen as madness by society. Why then do you think it appropriate to put down demonic possession to what is simply an ill organ? I will fight my whole life so that people such as myself and others don’t become ‘mistakes’ that are shunned and closeted at the convenience of relatives. Horror films and media have done us a massive injustice. Why then are you using religion to drag us back into the asylums?

    Many a good man and woman has suffered from such severe mental illnesses in the past and I have no doubt many a religious leader has. My own grandfather who suffered before me was the most devoted man. His father was a minister, his brother a Presbyterian bishop. He spent his whole life fighting to be a good Christian. He was a religion scholar and even taught himself Hebrew so that he might read the lords word in it’s original form. Few men showed such unfaltering devotion to their lord. A man who sacrificed time and time again to help others and spread the word of god. He went abroad to spread the word and even when in a concentration camp in Taiwan during the war he held services for the down trodden men, even when he himself was starving. So what if he was manic depressive? He was a good christian and in times of mania practically made himself bankrupt by aiding the church and it’s charities. He did none of this out of guilt or fear for his soul. He did it out of love for his God and the people of this world.

    If you think there is a spiritual war going on then so be it. If I defy you then I defy you, I do not defy god of Jesus. Instead I think you should feel shame. You show no humility. In times like this you look to those who need most care and protect them! Instead you shame them by calling them out to be such wretched, demon possessed, souls.

    There is no hole in my soul. I have suffered greatly but I have been enlightened through my pain. Jesus has been with me all the way. I am a sinner, like all men but I am not a demon nor does my temple possess one. Rather it has a poor, sick organ within it which needs medication to function correctly. And it does. I don’t think you can say a possession can be aided with medication.

    I am done here. No doubt this will be censored. I won’t even read a reply. I’ve said my piece.

    • Thank you, Anne for your comment. I am very sorry for what you are going through, but I have no reason to be ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Jesus healed a boy from epilepsy by casting a demon from him, and He did the same thing with my daughter.

      I speak only of that which I have experienced myself. You say I have no humility or pity for those who are suffering from these terrible illnesses and their families. Do you have any idea what it’s like to be the parent of a child who suffers from the debilitating physical and psychological effects of severe epilepsy? Anne, before my daughter had her first seizure, she was a perfectly normal, healthy little girl. I used to take her everywhere I went in one of those strap-on child carriers. She was happy, bouncy, very inquisitive, and intelligent.

      All that changed after she had her first seizure and they put her on the epilepsy medication. She went downhill fast. She couldn’t understand most of the things you said to her. She would slobber all the time, and had this blank, frightening look that I cannot describe. She would wake up in the middle of the night and walk outside. I had to tie a rope from her ankle to mine so I would know whenever she got out of bed. At five years old, her kindergarten teachers said that something was wrong with her, and that they didn’t think she would be ready to go to school. They suggested I take her to a behavioral psychologist, who took great pleasure in telling me that my daughter was mentally retarded and would never, ever be normal. I told her that before the seizures and the medication, she was perfectly normal, that it didn’t make sense that epilepsy would make a child retarded. But it was no use. With tears welling in my eyes at her callous attitude, I vowed that I would not let this happen to my daughter.

      It was a civilian doctor that diagnosed my daughter as mentally retarded, so I decided to get a second opinion from a military behavioral psychologist, which I did. This doctor told me that there was nothing wrong with my daughter mentally, but that she may have had some developmental problems physically, because she had a slight gimp when she walked and carried her left hand almost like someone with cerebral palsy. These things did not show until my daughter started having seizures.

      Now here were two doctors, experts in their fields, with two radically different diagnoses. My logic was that with such a disparity, one of them had to be wrong, which I knew was the civilian psychologist. I furthered gathered that if it were possible for one of them to be wrong, then it was also possible that they both could be wrong. In other words, I began to wonder if what had been diagnosed as a neurological condition and a psychological condition may have been neither neurological nor psychological, but spiritual. But for the time being, I kept these thoughts to myself.

      Then something happened. During one of my daughter’s quarterly EEG and physical examinations, the nurse “accidentally” gave my daughter the wrong medicine. And what made it so bad was that she did it when I had gone to the bathroom. Now I had given all staff explicit orders that all medication was to be administered either by me or under my supervision, but this nurse, with full knowledge, disregarded my instructions. Luckily for me, my daughter hated taking pills and would hold them under her cheek pretending to swallow them. So when the nurse gave her the pill she held it in her cheek and when I came back to the room, she took it out of her mouth and showed it to me. When I saw the color I instantly knew something was wrong. I went ballistic.

      Do you know that the medicine that they gave my daughter was for people suffering from psychosis? I didn’t then, nor do I now believe they gave her the wrong medicine by accident. They thought something was wrong with my daughter but they didn’t have the authority to prescribe the medicine they thought she should be on. So they pulled a fast one. Because of the very real possibility that they could have seriously injured or even killed my daughter, the leverage was on my side. And I used it.

      Because I believed the medicine was causing my daughter to behave strangely, I reduced her dosage by half. Do you know what happened? An almost complete reversal. When she went to have her physical and cognitive examinations to go to the first grade, she passed with flying colors. The doctors were amazed. But this was only the beginning.

      On the next quarterly exam, I asked her epilepsy doctor a very simple question. Do you think that epilepsy may be something other than neurological? I was trying to put this delicately so she would not think I was crazy, but she knew exactly what I was trying to say. “Are you asking if I think epilepsy may be spiritual and not medical?” she said. Her response shocked me.

      “Mr. Keeton, I am an epilepsy doctor. My mother has epilepsy and she went to the Orient to find a traditional cure for her epilepsy, because I can’t help her. My husband has epilepsy. He had it as a child, but when he reached puberty, it went away. Now he is an adult, and a few years ago it came back suddenly. He’s a grown man now, and he’s having seizures again. Mr. Keeton, I am an epilepsy doctor and I can’t help these people. So whatever you think you need to do, do it.”

      That was all I needed to hear. Now the rest of the story you know. Anne, I am not trying to minimize or discount your pain and suffering. I believe what you say. But please understand that my experience was every bit as real as yours. I am no doctor, and I don’t have tons of ecclesiastical erudition. What I do have is my testimony, and you have just heard it. And make no mistake: it is 100% authentic. I would be remiss if I said that there is no medical basis for illness. There most certainly is. But if we believe the Bible, then we have to believe that there are times when illness is brought on by demonic activity—not necessarily demonic possession, but unquestionably demonic activity. To gainsay this is to call Jesus a liar.

      All I am trying to say is that if nothing else works for a person then it doesn’t hurt to try Jesus. The epilepsy doctor, though not a Christian, was honest enough to imply this. Unfortunately many are not. Christians can be affected by demonic activity too, if they are living in sin or are under a generational curse. I know: I was one of them.

    • Brittany says:

      Anna, thank you sister!!! I’m bipolar and am a Christian and have had this disease for years, and its NOT demonic! They’re are plenty of other sites that tell us why we suffer this from this and that it may not be in Gods will to heal us from mental disorders. Some people need to honestly get a life, and turn to God themselves!

  31. Britta says:

    I totally agree with you (The Still Man). Bipolar disorder and schizophrenia are the same… People think that people hearing voices is only associated with bein schizophrenic but it isn’t. As a matter of fact they definitions of both have many similarities to them. I myself have been told that I am Bipolar but i’ve never wanted to be one to give myself a false diagnosis. Now days everything is considered being a disorder. But I am working on changing my life around so that i can be of a sound mind.

    • Praise God Britta. Satan has many devices, one of which is changing language so that some things are not what they appear to be, and others appear to be what they are not. I pray you will find solace in Christ Jesus, because if there is one thing that He can give you, it is a sound mind. I will be praying for you.

  32. Denise Rittler says:

    You are a moron. I am a born again Christian and suffered my entire adult life with manic depression. It is not demonic. It is biological brain dysfunction similar to epilepsy, an aneurism, parkinsons, or trauma induced paralysis. Like diabetes, if it’s not miraculously healed by God, you take your insulin. Bipolar disorder is different from schizophrenia, as I do not hear voices or have hallucinations. I’m missing part of the seratonin 1a receptor in my brain, causing depression, and have more neurotransmitter activity, than people with normal brains. I am blessed by God to be a worship leader at my church, and spend daily time in prayer and worship and bible study. They conceal knowledge about mental disorders in things called “books”.

    • You know Ms. Rittler, I have heard many people say things that I don’t agree with; some of them have even made me very angry. But I have never, ever condescended into name-calling. Why? Because it is not edifying. Not only that, but it is dangerous. Countless incidents of name-calling have resulted in murder. And you say that you are a born again Christian?

      I was going to delete your comment and bar you from returning, but I will leave it for the edification of the body of Christ. Even bad people can be used as a good example. But know that I will bar you if you ever do this again. You either stop behaving like an unrepentant sinner, or stop calling yourself a Christian. I have more respect for those in the world who know better than disgrace the cross of Christ than I do for worldly so-called Christians who behave as filthy-mouthed children.

      Now you say that manic depression is not demonic: that it is just “a biological brain dysfunction similar to epilepsy.” How then, do you explain Jesus healing the boy with epilepsy In Matthew 17:14-21? The boy’s father told Jesus:

      “Lord, have mercy on my son: for he is lunatick, and sore vexed: for oftimes he falleth into the fire, and oft into the water” (v. 15)

      The Greek word for lunatick means “crazy or possessed.” The Greek word for falling, means “thrashing about” (Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance). The boy was possessed with a spirit of epilepsy.

      When His disciples asked why they could not cast the demon out of the boy, Jesus said that it was “because of [their] disbelief” and because “this kind cometh not out but by prayer and fasting.” My own daughter had epilepsy with severe seizures until I cast the demon out of her that was causing it. Now was Jesus also a moron, or are you one of those “Christians” who believe that the Bible is full of mistakes?

      You say that you are “a worship leader at your church and spend daily time in prayer and worship and bible [sic] study.” Yet, you call me a moron just because I speak of things that I have not only read, but seen, some of which would seem totally fantastic to someone of your ilk. Is this what “born again Christians” do? “Christians” like yourself are the reason why many people say that they would rather die than become a Christian. We are not supposed to act like the rest of the world.

      Now, if you believe that you suffer from depression because of a neuro-chemical anomaly, and you’re OK with that, then that’s fine. But please don’t insult me because my experience differs from yours. This very blog that you are reading is a result of the things that I have experienced that can testify that there is a spiritual war going on. If you are offended or uncomfortable with that reality, you can return to your comfort zone and pretend that I and my moronic ideas don’t exist. But I would caution you not to make a habit of offending those with whom you disagree.

      You are going to learn very shortly that there are many in this country who, if given the opportunity, would do serious bodily harm to anyone who claims to be a Christian, let alone any who adhere to Biblical Christianity. Understand that by your very words you identify more with them than you do with Jesus, who by the way was called far worse than a moron.

      • Denise says:

        I see you are still in the dark. Since this was all published, it’s been discovered and found to be FACT that Bipolar Disorder is a neuro biological BRAIN DISORDER. The brain is much smaller than a normal brain. There differences between them (now proven by scans) between a “normal” brain and one that is not normal, biologically. So Bipolar Disorder is a PHYSICAL brain abnormality, no different than brain injury such as with a stroke or being in an accident causing brain damage. Nothing whatsoever to do with demonic activity. I know this is on the internet, so I’ll spell it backwards….uoy era norom! Stop typing all day and READ.

        • Denise, why do you continue to resist the Holy Spirit? If you’re convinced that bipolar disorder is a “neurological brain disorder,” isn’t that good enough for you? Do you so vigorously resist everyone who disagrees with you?

          I don’t need to read every piece of literature out there on bipolar disorder to have an informed opinion. The medical establishment admits they don’t know what causes bipolar disorder. All they have is theories.

          Collier’s Encyclopedia 1991, Vol. 15, p. 334, says:

          “According to recent biochemical theories, changes in the level of various chemicals that transmit nerve impulses in the brain account for both the manic and depressive changes. A high level of such neurotransmitters is thought to be associated with mania and a lower than normal level with depression…none of these theories has been proven.”

          If bipolar disorder were no different than a brain injury, how do you account for the fact that it runs in families? Colliers, on the same page as above, says, “According to recent research, this disorder is transmitted in families. In some families, transmission appears to be genetic.”

          Encyclopedia Britannica, 1985, Vol. 7, p. 775 says, “Statistical studies have suggested a hereditary predisposition to the disorder.”

          Are brain injuries genetic? I think not.

          The only evidence that suggests that bipolar disorder may be genetic is the fact that it runs in families. Again, brain injuries are no more genetic than a broken leg or a dislocated shoulder. Bipolar disorder runs in families because it is a generational curse.

          Further proof of this is the fact that the activities engaged in by many people with bipolar disorder are mostly sinful and include murder, pathological lying, stealing, spending money you don’t have (poor stewardship), sexual hyperactivity, outbursts of anger, physical abuse, alcoholism and other substance abuse, stalking, voyeurism, pornography, and other sins. And get this: According to Collier’s Encyclopedia, 15-20% of suicides (self-murder) are attributed to bipolar disorder. That’s close to 1 in 5! And that was in 1991. Just imagine the statistics today, 24 years later.

          Whenever you write me, rather than convince me that bipolar disorder is a medical condition, you reaffirm my belief that it is spiritual. For the second time in four years, you have called me a moron, even after numerous emails from you apologizing for that first episode. Can’t you see that this behavior alone confirms that your situation is spiritual?

          As long as doctors admit or imply that they don’t know what causes bipolar disorder and continue to prescribe medications, like lithium, which only treat the symptoms and do nothing to cure the source, I will never believe that bipolar disorder is medical. As long as people write me agreeing that bipolar disorder is, in fact, spiritual, because they found that only after confessing their sins were they freed from the disorder, I will never believe that bipolar disorder is medical. As long as I keep getting letters from people suffering from the disorder or having relatives that are and testify that the medications only have them walking around in a semi-catatonic state, I will never believe that bipolar disorder is medical. And as long you continue to write me regarding this matter and always resort to name-calling, yet consider yourself a Christian, I will never believe that bipolar disorder is medical.

          And, finally, as long as the Bible says that Jesus has given us “power, love, and a sound mind,” I will always believe that Jesus can heal anyone from bipolar disorder.

          Maybe you, Denise, should read less and pray more. God bless you.

          • waveridering says:

            Encyclopedia Britannica, 1985
            Collier’s Encyclopedia 1991
            et al….
            you seem to quote some very outdated sources-selectively!
            much has been learnt since then…..
            does it really matter whether bp/manic dep is a disease/condition/disorder etc?
            it IS REAL-contrary to your misguided understanding.

          • Winston Churchill is quoted to have said, “The farther back you can look, the farther forward you can see.”

            Churchill knew that much of the truth can be found in older source material, a great deal of which is no longer available. That’s because Satan has been very busy destroying or removing from circulation much of the older literature that revealed the truth about a great many things, including bipolar disorder, while simultaneously replacing this information with new “enlightened” material. That is the purpose for the thousands of new “enlightened” bible versions. Satan is doing this so that people, such as yourself, will never learn the truth. You must understand that much of what is available today about a great many subjects is not true knowledge, but information disguised as knowledge. Much of the information that you consider outdated, is actually closer to the truth than a great deal of contemporary literature.

            You say “much has been learnt” about bipolar disorder, yet the best that the medical establishment can do is to say that bipolar disorder is due to a neurotransmitter disorder or some other brain function anomaly and that it is genetic. According to the “outdated” source material I cited, these same claims were made as early as 1985--thirty years ago--and the same encyclopedia says that there was no scientific proof to back up that claim. This means that with all that “has been learnt,” the medical and psychological establishments are no closer to finding out what causes bipolar disorder, and, therefore, no closer to a cure. They are merely disseminating more “enlightened” information to pacify those who have the disorder and to make them feel OK about not being in their right mind.

            This agrees with 2 Timothy 3 which says that in the last days many would be “ever learning, and never able to come to a knowledge of the truth.” This is because they are more comfortable listening to men than they are listening to God. There is not now, nor will there ever be a cure for bipolar disorder. They will only be able to treat the symptoms, because BIPOLAR DISORDER IS SPIRITUAL, NOT MEDICAL.

            As for whether it matters what you call bipolar disorder, you must understand that one of Satan’s greatest weapons is language. He changes the meaning of words to make things appear to be what they are not, and to not appear to be what they are. This is no less true with bipolar disorder.



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